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by jimhabegger
Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:44 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Where did "All religions are one" come from?
Replies: 2
Views: 4197

Where did "All religions are one" come from?

I can't find "all religions are one," in those words, in any authoritative writings. Does anyone know when and how Baha'is started saying that, in those words?
by jimhabegger
Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:38 pm
Forum: Bahá'í Writings
Topic: Exploring the Ocean Together (revised)
Replies: 7
Views: 22513

Re: Exploring the Ocean Together (revised)

Hi Peter. Thanks for posting. You've encouraged me! Have you posted your ideas anywhere on the Internet, like in a blog or a forum, or on a Web page? If not, will you write to me about them? I'm still confused about what I want to do in my new blog and on my new Web pages, but part of it at least wi...
by jimhabegger
Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:04 am
Forum: Bahá'í Writings
Topic: Exploring the Ocean Together (revised)
Replies: 7
Views: 22513

Re: Exploring the Ocean Together (revised)

I've been wondering for years how to practice and promote networking between Baha'i theorists and Baha'i practitioners. One example of what I mean by "theorists" is people whose ideas are published repeatedly in Baha'i Studies journals. One example of what I mean by "practitioners&quo...
by jimhabegger
Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:12 pm
Forum: Bahá'í Writings
Topic: Exploring the Ocean Together (revised)
Replies: 7
Views: 22513

Re: Exploring the Ocean Together (revised)

John and Brett, thank you for those comments. I like those ideas very much. That helps a lot. I've been wondering how there might be more networking between people deeply involved in Baha'i studies associations and people deeply involved in the growth programs of the Baha'i Community, and what I mig...
by jimhabegger
Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:23 pm
Forum: Bahá'í Writings
Topic: Exploring the Ocean Together (revised)
Replies: 7
Views: 22513

Exploring the Ocean Together (revised)

Exploring the Ocean Together I'm planning to start a new blog, and some new Web pages, about helping to transmit encouragement, support and learning through walls of prejudice and over gulfs of estrangement that divide people who are interested in the writings of Baha'u'llah. Before I start, I'd lik...
by jimhabegger
Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:15 pm
Forum: Bahá'í Writings
Topic: LOCKED --- Exploring the Ocean Together
Replies: 1
Views: 11626

LOCKED --- Exploring the Ocean Together

Sorry, guys, Ive locked this topic. Reasons are given below... -BritishBahai, Tues 25th Nov 2008. ___________ I don't know why this post was removed. It might be because I posted it in the wrong forum. I'll try posting it here. If anyone removes it, please send me an explanation. I'm planning to st...
by jimhabegger
Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:35 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A movement to help free the Baha'i spirit from its shackles
Replies: 8
Views: 20086

Re: A movement to help free the Baha'i spirit from its shackles

I've decided to call the movement I'm talking about "The dialogue/Talisman new horizons movement," until I find something better. It's one of many movements I've seen to help free the spirit of the Baha'i Faith from its shackles, including the new culture that the House of Justice is promo...
by jimhabegger
Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:04 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles
Replies: 28
Views: 95498

Re: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles

Perhaps Jonah could merge the two if you asked him? Might easier for all to follow and participate if they were the same thread. Jonah, please, don't. I specifically created the other thread to dissociate the new horizons movement from the feud. I won't try to stop anyone from dragging red herrings...
by jimhabegger
Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:39 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles
Replies: 28
Views: 95498

Re: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles

This is a response to Loren's post to me in the thread " A movement to help free the Baha'i spirit from its shackles. " My response could lead to discussions that might divert attention from what I wanted to discuss there. ---- Loren, I was very happy to see such a sympathetic and thoughtf...
by jimhabegger
Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:20 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A movement to help free the Baha'i spirit from its shackles
Replies: 8
Views: 20086

Re: A movement to help free the Baha'i spirit from its shackles

Hi Loren, I was very happy to see such a sympathetic and thoughtful response from someone who has concerns about what I'm doing. Thank you very much for posting! I've moved the rest of my response to the thread " Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles ." I want to limit my respo...
by jimhabegger
Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:59 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Forum problems? Can't login, or missing posts?
Replies: 2
Views: 8664

Re: Forum problems? Can't login, or missing posts?

If it's happened to enough people I can try re-installing the forum and importing an archived backup. If it's just two people, I won't worry about it. Jonah, could you restore the backup into a separate set of boards, or into an archive, or make it accessible to read some other way, without disturb...
by jimhabegger
Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:06 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: interpretation and elucidation
Replies: 6
Views: 11705

interpretation and elucidation

The House of Justice does not interpret. It elucidates. What difference does that make, in practice? I've thought of an image that might help. Think of the elucidations of the House of Justice as a reading lamp, and the scriptures of the Faith as a book you're reading. The lamp can help you see what...
by jimhabegger
Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:36 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles
Replies: 28
Views: 95498

I'd like to try to explain more about my reasons for writing my story, and for discussing it here. I originally wrote the story partly in response to defamation campaigns against the people in it, and partly in response to defamation campaigns against the House of Justice. It would take a lot of tim...
by jimhabegger
Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:50 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles
Replies: 28
Views: 95498

Brett, another issue related to what you quoted from The Advent of Divine Justice is about my honesty in discharging my obligations to enemies of the Faith. I see campaigns by some Baha'is to poison people's minds against some of our enemies, and to influence other Baha'is to shun them. In my unders...
by jimhabegger
Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:37 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles
Replies: 28
Views: 95498

Brett, another issue related to what you quoted from The Advent of Divine Justice is about what Shoghi Effendi calls "the more serious deficiencies" by which the American Baha'i community "is being handicapped in the discharge of its task." I see those as examples of the shackles...
by jimhabegger
Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:36 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles
Replies: 28
Views: 95498

Brett, another issue related to what you quoted from The Advent of Divine Justice is the way we're advised to treat our enemies. Another example of how to treat our enemies, from the Will and Testament of Abdu'l-Baha: O ye beloved of the Lord! In this sacred Dispensation, conflict and contention are...
by jimhabegger
Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:33 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles
Replies: 28
Views: 95498

Brett, I'd like to discuss some issues you raised in an earlier post, which I see as very relevant to what I've been doing. You quoted this: It ["rectitude of conduct" "which the American believers must...strive to promote"] must be demonstrated in the impartiality of every defen...
by jimhabegger
Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:53 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles
Replies: 28
Views: 95498

Brett, you've brought up some writings and some issues that I see as very relevant to what I've been doing. Three of them are in your quote from The Advent of Divine Justice . 1. Recognizing any merits our enemies may possess. 2. The way we're advised to treat our enemies. 2. What Shoghi Effendi cal...
by jimhabegger
Wed Apr 02, 2008 11:27 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A movement to help free the Baha'i spirit from its shackles
Replies: 8
Views: 20086

A movement to help free the Baha'i spirit from its shackles

I decided to start a separate thread on this topic, to help avoid it being obscured by other issues. This about what I'm calling a movement to help free the religious spirit from its shackles within the Baha'i community. Some time ago there was some interdisciplinary networking going on among some B...
by jimhabegger
Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:44 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles
Replies: 28
Views: 95498

. . . dwelling on supposedly liberal "movements" (whatever their aspects) which obviously contradict its explicit teachings (by those who are no longer Baha'is no less) . . . Are you saying that Susan Maneck, Jonah Winters, Amin Banani, Erika Batdorf, Terry Culhane, Sandra Fotos, Amir Hag...
by jimhabegger
Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:21 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles
Replies: 28
Views: 95498

I've re-written what I posted at the beginning of this thread, to remove the word "liberal," which can too easily be used to divert attention from what I wanted to discuss. ---- Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles http://www.geocities.com/netsofwonder/freedom.html In the fore...
by jimhabegger
Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:19 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles
Replies: 28
Views: 95498

Thank you, Brett. You wrote: . . . dwelling on supposedly liberal "movements" (whatever their aspects) which obviously contradict its explicit teachings (by those who are no longer Baha'is no less) . . . Let me see if I understand you correctly. Are you saying that Susan Maneck, Jonah Wint...
by jimhabegger
Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:47 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles
Replies: 28
Views: 95498

hi jim, you didnt answer my question... In my very first post, I explained my reasons for what I'm doing. I've learned from painful experience that it's worse than useless to try to answer questions from someone who ignores the answers I've already given. If you can find the reasons I gave in my fi...
by jimhabegger
Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:20 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles
Replies: 28
Views: 95498

Thank you, Richard. Um . . . I think I agree with you?

Jim
by jimhabegger
Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:32 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles
Replies: 28
Views: 95498

But my point holds that certain individuals (not necessarily those you named) are unfortunately trying to promote division. I've seen all of the people in my story campaigning against the House of Justice, if that's what you mean, but that isn't the liberal movement I'm talking about. That's part o...
by jimhabegger
Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:29 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Freedom from sectarian hatreds and other shackles
Replies: 28
Views: 95498

I've decided to change "liberation movement" to "liberal movement" in my essay. Out of context, "Baha'i liberation movement" might be misunderstood as Baha'i involvement in a revolutionary political movement.

Jim

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