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- Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:26 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Essence knowable?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 34924
yeah...
<<--actually, it was rhetorical. that's why i put the word "selfish" in quotes.-->> #1. i should think so: which is why i used a s-a-d smiley . :p <<--actually, i talked about this in another thread (where we are exchanging ideas). kindness is more important, but what do you mean by "ritual." If you...
- Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:04 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
ummm...
<<--nameless, let me assure you: think about being fed grapes by a room full of nice, young virgins (etc.) awaits us. however, this symbol of virgins is just imagery that is used in this world to let us know about how good it's going to be in the next.-->> <<--things like "hell-fire" are just used t...
- Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:01 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Essence knowable?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 34924
hmmm...
<<--Dear nameless friend; when did you start taking risperdal ? Or are you one of those on zyprexa ? You should try Clozapine®, to help you touch reality, and heal you inner things for good. Are you in or out of an institution ? What pills do you take ? Do you see may spiders all at ounce ?-->> #1. ...
- Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:01 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Proof from the Quran?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 42996
well...
<<--well, technically the bismillah is missing before the 1236th verse, but it is a way of putting things, we say he was born in 1235, but in the realitty it is the first day of 1236, since 1235 years have passed since this first new day.-->> #1. speak as a techie, or a geek, or a plain bozo: u will...
- Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:19 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Essence knowable?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 34924
well...
<<--1. you believe in God-->> #1. yes <<--2. you claim that God is selfish because He wants us to worship Him-->> #2. its a combination of different factors. besides being 'selfish', it is 'unjust' too. :cry: <<--3. you believe there is an afterlife-->> #3. yes <<--and 4. you do not want to worship ...
- Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:19 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
hmmm...
<<--nameless, i agree with 'live and let live.' but if one is hit by a car and his life is ended early, is he really dead? or will he be more alive than ever, especially because he (in this hypothetical situation) was a firm believer in God and His Manifestation, and lived a holy and chaste life?-->...
- Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:18 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Essence knowable?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 34924
sure...
<<--get into it. Stop a-talkin'.,
and do it. Sit back and recite
slowly. -->>
#1. reciting: 'slowly', 'slowly', 'slowly'....'slowly'
and do it. Sit back and recite
slowly. -->>
#1. reciting: 'slowly', 'slowly', 'slowly'....'slowly'
- Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:16 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Proof from the Quran?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 42996
well...
<<--At this spot, 1235 verses have passed, and on the first day of the 1236 year AH, the Bab comes into this world. It is the birthdate of the messenger, the Bab-->> #1. between bab and bahaullah, there is an enormous amount of matter that needs addressing. just like there is after bahaullah's death...
- Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:16 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
hmmm...
<<--why do you think so much ?-->>
#1. so that when somebody tells me 'nameless, THINK', i dont come out blank
#1. so that when somebody tells me 'nameless, THINK', i dont come out blank
- Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:19 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Imam Hussain
- Replies: 6
- Views: 13544
ummm...
#1. so as for who killed hussain, it can be very well that a certain people in order to create disunity, or for their own selfish purpose decided to oppose the majority of muslims through any schism they could. as v can see from history, even shias are divided over the imams, mainly ismailis and jaf...
- Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:16 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Proof from the Quran?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 42996
yeah...
<<--i said my finding was that this is the most significant, strongest proof from the Quran. i have read many proofs, and read many books. this i did not read in any book. i was taught this directly from Dr. Moojan Momen himself it is possible i came across this proof before then, in his book, but o...
- Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:41 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
well...
<<--nameless, I'm just wondering what it is (if anything) that keeps you from accepting the Baha'i Faith i.e. some laws, principles, etc.?-->> #1. yes, there are things. if u would like i can say a few things, but i do not want u to think i am attacking bahaism. i have already said before i have no ...
- Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:40 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Proof from the Quran?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 42996
ummm..
#1. i know i should have asked this first up, but i assumed that this verse as a proof was ur own discovery; i mean u said it was ur finding. so is this proof ur finding and not a general bahai belief(?)
- Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:36 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Proof from the Quran?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 42996
well..
<<--but this is clearly untrue since it says FOR THE BELIEVERS -->> #1. in that case: how would u define 'believers'(?) those who have rejected bahaullah would not be included, would they(?) also, if 'believers' be muslims: in that case it would be precluding christians, jews, hindus, buddhists and ...
- Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:43 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Imam Hussain
- Replies: 6
- Views: 13544
umm..
#1. again, off topic, but i found this at a website: 'Babies were the original followers of Bab (the correct founder of the Bab/Bahá'í Faith!). ' #2. bab+ ies = babies! lol! absolutely no offence to anybody, i am only laughing at my stupidity: i was like babies were the original followers of bab! HU...
- Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:40 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Proof from the Quran?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 42996
ummm...
'120. All that We relate to thee of the stories of the apostles -- with it We make firm thy heart: in them there cometh to thee the Truth, as well as an exhortation and a message of remembrance to those who believe. '
#1. what tells u in that verse about another messenger.
#1. what tells u in that verse about another messenger.
- Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:35 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Imam Hussain
- Replies: 6
- Views: 13544
also...
'The islamic faith of yazid is proved without any shadow of doubt. As regards the murder of hussain, there is no definite evidence that yazid either killed him or issued orders for his killing or approved any such plans. When nothing has been proved in this regard, how would it be lawful to cast dou...
- Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:13 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: bahaism and prophets
- Replies: 13
- Views: 20974
well...
#1. i found bahai view on lut's act: on this very site. '5. Genesis XIX, 29-38--the text makes it quite clear that Lot was not responsible for the action committed by his two daughters, as they gave him wine and made him drunk.' #2. that's the view of shoghi effendi (as given on this site), so i can...
- Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:51 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Essence knowable?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 34924
huh?
<<--Stop playing around child, -->>
#1. u talking to me(?)
#2. then tell this child why he should not play around. or are u 1 of those enlightened who would use 'child' for a lesser mortal like me.
<<--do something !-->>
#3. hmmm.
#1. u talking to me(?)
#2. then tell this child why he should not play around. or are u 1 of those enlightened who would use 'child' for a lesser mortal like me.
<<--do something !-->>
#3. hmmm.
- Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:50 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
huh
<<--It is not very complicated-->> #1. when did *i* say anything is complicated. and what is this 'it' which is not very complicated. <<--If you go trough the valleys-->> #2. are u talking about the text of the book of valleys(?) or actually wading through those valleys <<--you will know what i mean...
- Sun Dec 04, 2005 4:26 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Essence knowable?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 34924
ummm...
<<--It is a fact that Messenger Baha'u'llah does not incist much to talk about this gentlemen (Allah) so often, except in the imagination of translators of the early century, this word (God) seems to pop-up everywhere. Compare and be convinced. -->> #1. i will take ur word that bahaullah does not us...
- Sun Dec 04, 2005 4:25 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
yeah...
<<--The fact is that when we become concious of what was subconcious, it is not subconcious anymore, it becomes a part of our conscience. This transfer of images from our past into our conscience is just a small step of the experience. If we stay at this level for a while, we will wish naturally to ...
- Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:20 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Imam Hussain
- Replies: 6
- Views: 13544
well..
#1. i did a bit of online finding (google and u shall find), and i came up with interesting opinions. #2. it seems shias are very sensitive over this issue (not that sunnis are not), and for them hussain epitomises the love of god. also they say that hussain's death was in the cause of truth, agains...
- Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:50 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Imam Hussain
- Replies: 6
- Views: 13544
well..
<<--Who killed the Lord of Martyrs, Imam Hussain, was it the Iraqis, Syrians or Iranians??? -->>
#1. do bahais also call hussain as chief of martyrs(?) i thouht it was a shia view. maybe some sunnis also hold it.
#1. do bahais also call hussain as chief of martyrs(?) i thouht it was a shia view. maybe some sunnis also hold it.
- Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:16 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Essence knowable?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 34924
ummm..
<<--to insert the word God and so many divinising terms
everywhere they can in the scriptures, like in some translations,
it is a distortion and a malady of this century. -->>
#1. that seems to be a malady of every age.
everywhere they can in the scriptures, like in some translations,
it is a distortion and a malady of this century. -->>
#1. that seems to be a malady of every age.
- Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:15 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
hmmm..
majnun <<--I was just wondering why these ideas are expressed by your person, separately, like no 1, 2, 3, etc.-->> <<--The concept of inner unification (tauhid, valley 4) is redefined by the Bahai scriptures. However we, humans, have this tendency to separate, to split concepts and ideas into tiny ...
- Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:35 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
hmmm
<<--you are not alone, to have/get more knowledge and understanding, God send us a new manifastation, a new religion.-->> #1. hi! it is not so much about new or old religion for me, but my own lack of understanding and knowledge that makes me unfit for speculation about a perfect world. #2. like u c...
- Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:25 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Essence knowable?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 34924
ummm...
<<--This way of thinking is an error.-->> #1. so u are an absolute judge who decides which ways are errors(?) <<--One day we will be "gods", immortal beings.-->> #2. how do u define 'gods' that u qualify humans as being able to become 'gods'. being immortal is not being god, though the reverse is ap...
- Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:13 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
well...
<<--What causes you so much pain ?-->>
#1. among many other things: ur persecution, or more broadly speaking: of bahais, and still more: of minorities, further (which may or may not be applicable): of innocents
#1. among many other things: ur persecution, or more broadly speaking: of bahais, and still more: of minorities, further (which may or may not be applicable): of innocents
- Fri Dec 02, 2005 11:12 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: bahaism and prophets
- Replies: 13
- Views: 20974
hmmm
<<--The right one.-->> #1. and does it go under a name(?) or does it suffer being my namesake(?) <<--I just asked you, how many version bible has?-->> #2. gospels have 'versions'. gospel according to saint a, saint b, saint c....so on. the books of old testament do not seem to have similar 'versions...
- Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:04 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: bahaism and prophets
- Replies: 13
- Views: 20974
ummm...
<<--nameless do you know how many version bible has? -->>
#1. which version has been authorised by bahaullah(?)
#2. have a nice time u too.
#1. which version has been authorised by bahaullah(?)
#2. have a nice time u too.
- Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:03 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
well..
<<So, now you know what is my and other peoples utopia-->> #1. u talked about bahai world and this world. and that bahais aim is to spread the teachings of bahaullah. so i *presumed* u are saying when that when the teachings of bahaullah have spread the expanse of the earth, then this world will bec...
- Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:55 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: bahaism and prophets
- Replies: 13
- Views: 20974
yeah...
<<--i don't know if we do have an opinion on that. we probably don't.-->>
#1. how can the future unite when history divides.
<<--just curious, is this important to you?-->>
#2. yes.
#1. how can the future unite when history divides.
<<--just curious, is this important to you?-->>
#2. yes.
- Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:54 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
yeah...
<<--But all and all The Baha'i Faith working to educate and teach people/socitey, and give them a better life, we should/could not compare "The Baha'i world" with the world in this time (do you follow me here?).-->> #1. hi! i *think* u are talking about utopia. somehow, somewhere in the near future ...
- Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:43 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
hmmm
<<--Sin is breaking the divine law e.g. Backbiting. If you backbiting someone the police does not arrest you because of that, it is no crime. The social (or the country which I live in) law has no paragraph about that. So there is a diference between sin and crime.-->> <<--Ye have been forbidden to ...
- Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:39 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: bahaism and prophets
- Replies: 13
- Views: 20974
well..
#1. i am still waiting to hear bahai views on whether they agree with bible that lut slept with his daughters and david got uriah killed to marry his wife. quran does not say anything about that (atleast not directly, atleast not far as *i* know), it is muslims who deny it. #2. so do bahais go with ...
- Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:55 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
ummm
baha'i warrior <<--if you sin, especially if you break a law...-->> #1. i cant quite get that. is sinning not breaking a law(?) what's the significance of the word 'especially'(?) hossein <<--Baha'i Warroir had explain very well, how Baha'i understand "sin" (which means, if I say it correct, breakin...
- Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:03 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: bahaism and prophets
- Replies: 13
- Views: 20974
actually
<<--Do you mean any reference to the authenticity of Hadith in the Writings?-->> #1. u said bab, bahaullah and abdulbaha do refer to some hadith, so i was wondering if there was any criteria they used when referring to those hadith. i mean how would they decide which hadith were fit for reference, s...
- Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:40 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: bahaism and prophets
- Replies: 13
- Views: 20974
hmmm
<<If the Holy Koran says something that goes contrary to what the Bible says, we go with the Koran because we know it was revealed by Muhammad Himself, and we do not believe all of the Bible to be authentic (i.e. all of it being directly revealed by God through His Messengers).>> #1. cool :-) <<--Bu...
- Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:14 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: bahaism and prophets
- Replies: 13
- Views: 20974
bahaism and prophets
#1. bible shows lut sleeping with his daughters; and david purposely sending uriah to wars with the intention of getting him killed, so that he could marry his wife. both these narratives are vehemently denied by muslims. #2. since bahaism recognises both bible and quran in their current form, which...
- Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:17 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
nameless way tao whatver ciao
'There are ways but the Way is uncharted; There are names but not nature in words: Nameless indeed is the source of creation But things have a mother and she has a name. The secret waits for the insight Of eyes unclouded by longing; Those who are bound by desire See only the outward container. These...
- Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:26 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
okay
<<--Consider you are suddenly the president of a country in which there are many different religious groups that if not fighting openly, at least not warm towards each other.... ...While looking for such a movement, I would recommend to you to consider the Baha'i Faith for such an enterprise.-->> #1...
- Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:46 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
hmmm
<<--I am sure you are not intend to.-->>
#1. is that ur gut-feeling. or was it some analysis (of my earlier posts). or perhaps experience (of having dealt with lot many like me before). or did come to u some knowledge (in this regard). or are u omniscient.
#2. have a nice time u too.
#1. is that ur gut-feeling. or was it some analysis (of my earlier posts). or perhaps experience (of having dealt with lot many like me before). or did come to u some knowledge (in this regard). or are u omniscient.
#2. have a nice time u too.
- Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:54 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
ummm
<<--Hi
nameless it is nice that you already began to write. -->>
#1. hi! i intended not to engage myself in discussing the validity or lack of it of any particular belief. and i intend to.
#2. have a nice time u to.
nameless it is nice that you already began to write. -->>
#1. hi! i intended not to engage myself in discussing the validity or lack of it of any particular belief. and i intend to.
#2. have a nice time u to.
- Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:15 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
hmmm
<<--The Baha'i dispensation begins on May 23rd 1844. The Baha'i calendar also. Everything revolves around this pivot.... ...The two are inseparable and linked. One without the other is meaningless.-->> #1. agreed. v cannot speak on behalf of god based on our presumptions. <<--Ah, yes, the old "women...
- Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:34 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
and
<<--Hi I wish you all the best. I am so happy that I could converse with you. have a nice time -->> #1. hi! thank u for ur wishes and i wish the same for u. and yes, thank u for giving me much of ur precious time. i too am happy at being able to get a chance to talk with u and others here. :-) do ha...
- Sat Nov 26, 2005 6:58 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
ahem
#1. hi! first of all i would like to clarify that i have nothing against anybody's beliefs. the only reason i am blabbering so much and asking so many questions is to highlight those points which do not seem to make sense to my logic and investigation, something which bahaullah and other messengers ...
- Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:53 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
so then
#1. unless the above writing is unfaithful, and this is from abahai-library and not my own, it follows that all bahaullah suffered was exile, imprisonment, hunger and perhaps disease. he was even allowed to carry out his religious preaching from the jail. like the article mentions, even as bab was e...
- Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:46 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
hmmm
<<--It is nice to remember how people treat muhammad (s) in the beggining of islam history. Muhammad and his few followers did not only suffer from persecution for thirteen years but the unbelievers even tried to kill Muhammad several times. On one occasion they attempted to kill him by dropping a l...
- Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:37 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
hi
<<--They can never say that, It is too late after all that misrable they have done. First of all Which kind of moslem can do that? They could not even unifying themselves, shi'a, sunni, vahabbi, ahmadiyeh and so on. Do you know how many people had been killed just because of the war between shi'a an...
- Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:46 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
umm
<<--As some do, but they dont practice it. There is no designated authoritative body to which they can look up to. They have broken up into many sects, and so all Muslims certainly will not believe the exact same thing. This is a problem the Faith has resolved, and we don't have that risk of breakin...
- Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:45 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Evidence of a GOd
- Replies: 19
- Views: 25407
then
<<--Again, your definition of "mercy" is that God program us all in such a way that we could do no evil. Then there would be no point in existing.-->> #1. ur definition of mercy is god allowing u to kill somebody, without any regards for mercy with respect to the person killed. <<--a "slave" is some...
- Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:43 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: paradise
- Replies: 16
- Views: 22962
hmmm
<<--Sorry, i did not understand what u mean say, but its ok Confused-->> #1. u said what begins necessarily ends. i said what goes up does cum down. :-) #2. if u didnt understand its okay, if u do understand what i am saying then it becomes a problem. :wink: <<--Cya,-->> #2. ciao :lol:
- Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:43 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
hmmm
#1. from bahai.org 'How do I become a Bahá’í? A person becomes a Bahá’í by recognizing Bahá’u’lláh as the Messenger of God for this age and accepting to follow His laws and teachings and the administrative institutions He established for the unification of humankind. People enroll in a Bahá’í commun...
- Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:28 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Evidence of a GOd
- Replies: 19
- Views: 25407
hmmm
<<--Then you are saying God is merciless for giving us free will. You would rather be a slave and not have free will than have it, I suppose.-->> #1. perchance u be implying u are not a slave(?) that would be interesting. #2. how does ur free will to kill somebody translate as god's mercy towards th...
- Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:49 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Evidence of a GOd
- Replies: 19
- Views: 25407
ahan
<<--God has mercy, that is why we bestowed upon us His Word. If ignorant mothers turned to God instead of cigarettes, alcohol, crack, and methylphenidate (ritalin), esp. while pregnant, then we would certainly have less “deformed” children with a host of behavior disorders.-->> #1. yes, indeed. the ...
- Fri Nov 25, 2005 5:11 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
well
<<--In the Baha'i Faith minorities are to be protected and their interests upheld.-->> #1. i dont think any faith ordains that the minorities are to be persecuted. its just 'human' tendency. <<Yes and no. You can argue that the 'knee' of the advancement curve in human hisotry was around the time of ...
- Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:37 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: paradise
- Replies: 16
- Views: 22962
what goes up cums down
<,--The time, is a human condition how said Abulbaha. For us, everthing must have a begin and an end, its inaceptable to us something out of this perspective.-->> #1. yes. and what goes up cums down. <<--I mean say, the soul evolue according the sacrifice individual people, dont need to compare with...
- Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:35 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
yups
<<--Hi I think, it is better to read when some moslem talking about "Beating": http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=588-->> #1. hi! whoso claims to be a muslim does not necessarily become a muslim and whoso readeth the quran does not necessarily understand it. since i am not muslim, u might feel...
- Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:15 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: paradise
- Replies: 16
- Views: 22962
opps
<<--2- The spiritual messages from all phrofets are the same...the social dont. Example: (i dunno how write in english...but something like) "eye by eye and tooth by tooth" dont is a messenger that is applicable to our time. But for that time was necessary. Jesus come and change to something like "t...
- Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:29 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
hmmm
<<--Hi-->> #1. hi <<--I wrote some verses of Quran and some Hadith (Bukhari) which are facts and moslem (both shi'a and Sunni) had lived/lives with them and believe in them. Bukhari's books studies also by shi'a and most of them has shown their accept. Ofcourse they can not be agree about the all wh...
- Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:56 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Evidence of a GOd
- Replies: 19
- Views: 25407
<<--This is something kind of like, is the glass half empty or half full. You can look at it either way. You can look at God as being infinitely loving because He created us and is giving us a chance at eternal happiness, or you can look at it as God only creating us, out of His “selfish” interests,...
- Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:56 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
well
<<--Let's get one thing straight. During Muhammad's time, everyone was wild. There were no prisons, police, etc. The men were wild, uneducated, as were the women. The men were more of a threat, so that is why the one's that attacked the Muslims needed to be killed.-->> #1. i think u are talking abou...
- Fri Nov 25, 2005 6:55 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: paradise
- Replies: 16
- Views: 22962
<--Christ could not have been an "impostor." Look at what an influence He had on the whole world. The sheer numbers of Christians is proof enough. No "cult" can ever get that big. The Writings say that the best proof of the validity of a religion is the impact it has on its adherents, and of course ...
- Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:37 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
in that case...
<<--You asked which rules has been changed and I wrote for you 2 of these rules. There is no need for me to talk about this vers (surah Women) and that hadith is also parallel with The Holy Quran.-->> #1. yes, but ur understanding of the verse is that it allows for wife-beating, but maybe thats not ...
- Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:41 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Evidence of a GOd
- Replies: 19
- Views: 25407
right
<<--Why doesn't God punish two people who are backbiting? Or someone that makes fun of another person? I see it happening every day. Granted, killing someone is much worse than backbiting, but they are both wrong and we are told not to do them. We see injustice of many forms, no matter where we are....
- Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:11 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: paradise
- Replies: 16
- Views: 22962
hmmm
<<--Also, the Writings say that if you are married, your soul will progress with your wife's soul in the next world. Just an interesting fact. So it looks like the bond is eternal. Maybe that's why there is a hadith that says "The lawful thing Allah hates most is divorce." I believe 'Abdu'l-Baha eve...
- Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:41 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: paradise
- Replies: 16
- Views: 22962
<<--When Bahá’u’lláh talks of the afterlife, He lets us know that He, as well as the previous Prophets of God, can only tell us what it means metaphorically. It is impossible to understand what the "bliss" or "remorse" is other than it is bliss and remorse. Trying to explain it is beyond any communi...
- Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:41 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: a *new* religion
- Replies: 91
- Views: 117752
hmmm
<<--I will use Hi-->> #1. hmmm <<--But those whose perverseness ye fear, admonish them and remove them into bedchambers and beat them; but if they submit to you, then do not seek a way against them; verily, God is high and great.-->> #2. that verse is under scrutiny of late. if u want us to talk abo...
- Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:07 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Evidence of a GOd
- Replies: 19
- Views: 25407
ummm
<<--And the point is: since when is humanity “worshipping” God? We can tell someone who is sincere from someone who is insincere by his very actions! Do you think guys with bombs strapped to themselves are God fearing? Do you think priests who fondle little boys are worshipping God? They might think...