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by jimhabegger
Tue May 03, 2005 5:42 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 30122

"The obedience of the House is the axis of all, it will be good to know what you exactly mean with 'what the House of Justice says,' as you know the House has powers of legislation, administrative and judicial." I'll rephrase the question. Does anyone know of any other writings that might prohibit p...
by jimhabegger
Tue May 03, 2005 5:40 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 30122

What is behind this question is that I think it's unhealthy, for individuals and for the community, and detrimental to the progress of the Cause, for people to be imagining that the Universal House of Justice is drawing boundaries around the *kinds* of views that anyone can promote.

Jim
by jimhabegger
Tue May 03, 2005 5:26 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 30122

"It looks turbid what is behind this question." What is behind this question is what I said in earlier posts. ---- "It is incumbent upon every man, in this Day, to hold fast unto whatsoever will promote the interests, and exalt the station, of all nations and just governments." - Gleanings from the ...
by jimhabegger
Mon May 02, 2005 3:11 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 30122

In case it wasn't clear, what I'm looking for in this thread is not arguments for or against any of the ideas I used in the examples. The only purpose of the examples was to help clarify what I'm looking for, which is writings that prohibit promoting views contrary to what the Universal House of Jus...
by jimhabegger
Mon May 02, 2005 8:14 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 30122

I'll use an example to explain what I'm looking for. Imagine a follower of Baha'u'llah who believes that it's contrary to Baha'u'llah's purposes and prescriptions to exclude women from the Universal House of Justice. As I see it, she has a responsibility first to study and practice the writings on t...
by jimhabegger
Mon May 02, 2005 7:54 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 30122

Thank you, Hasan. As I understand it, you would say that even if it were possible to promote disobedience to the House of Justice without creating schism, it would still be wrong because it would be disloyal to the Covenant. I didn't find anything in the writings about being loyal to the Covenant. I...
by jimhabegger
Sun May 01, 2005 7:38 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 30122

Finally, I come back to my original request, which is for writings that anyone thinks place limits on the *kinds* of ideas we can promote. Does anyone see any writings, including those of the Universal House of Justice, that specify ideas that we are forbidden to promote? Letters to individuals, tha...
by jimhabegger
Sun May 01, 2005 7:34 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 30122

Also, I would welcome writings about *how* to promote our ideas. For example, from Hasan's post above: "provided that no disputes or arguments arise among the friends and the individual himself understands and makes it clear that his views are merely his own." "express their own views without pressi...
by jimhabegger
Sun May 01, 2005 7:11 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 30122

Besides writings that anyone thinks place limits on the *kinds* of ideas we can promote, I would also like help finding writings that encourage us to promote whatever seems good to us, regardless of how unpopular it might be. For example: "It is incumbent upon every man, in this Day, to hold fast un...
by jimhabegger
Sun May 01, 2005 6:40 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 30122

Hasan, thank you very much! That's very helpful!

Jim
by jimhabegger
Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:03 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 30122

Limits to promoting ideas

I think it's better for Baha'u'llah's purposes for every person, including every follower of Bahau'llah, to promote whatever she believes in, even if it's contrary to the words of God Himself. I think some Baha'is feel inhibited about promoting some things they believe in, because of some people's i...

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