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by Keyvan
Wed May 31, 2006 10:54 pm
Forum: News
Topic: What is the Hojjatieh Society?
Replies: 1
Views: 8752

the Hojjatieh society is a violent group created out of Shia extremists, whos sole purpose is to destroy the Baha'i community additionally they believe that Imam Mahdi's "return" from "occultation" is imminent and that society must prepare as though they are at his advent they were successful in per...
by Keyvan
Wed May 31, 2006 10:53 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: What is the Hojjatieh Society?
Replies: 9
Views: 13854

the Hojjatieh society is a violent group created out of Shia extremists, whos sole purpose is to destroy the Baha'i community additionally they believe that Imam Mahdi's "return" from "occultation" is imminent and that society must prepare as though they are at his advent they were successful in per...
by Keyvan
Sun May 21, 2006 3:35 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: United States NSA address?
Replies: 5
Views: 10770

thanks a lot!
by Keyvan
Sat May 20, 2006 8:08 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: United States NSA address?
Replies: 5
Views: 10770

cool thanks. so if i send a letter to this, it goes directly to correspondance of the NSA, or another department at the NBC?
by Keyvan
Fri May 19, 2006 10:24 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: teaching in the Holy Land
Replies: 14
Views: 22144

by Keyvan
Fri May 19, 2006 10:23 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: teaching in the Holy Land
Replies: 14
Views: 22144

6) The emergence of the Bahá'í State (a merger between the civil system of government administration and the national bahá’í institutions) Huh?? What's going on with this?? I thought the stance of the Baha'i Faith was the separation of religion and politics politics refers to "old world politics;" ...
by Keyvan
Fri May 19, 2006 10:05 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Prophecies of the Imam's similar to those of the Guardian
Replies: 2
Views: 6926

I also found these hadiths on technological change at the time of the Mahdi. here is one from the Sixth Imam that seems to be referring to Television, as Dr. Momen describes it. Again, in the World Order of Baha'u'llah, we can find a parallel to this from a Prophecy of Shoghi Effendi, that seems to ...
by Keyvan
Fri May 19, 2006 10:02 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Prophecies of the Imam's similar to those of the Guardian
Replies: 2
Views: 6926

Prophecies of the Imam's similar to those of the Guardian

i wrote this for an Islam/Bahai dialogue forum. thought id post it here too. I was reading through Dr. Moojan Momen's book again, An Introduction to Shi'i Islam, and I came across something interesting. Hadiths from Imam Ali, and a hadith from Imam Ja'far as-Sadiq, describing the moral degradation a...
by Keyvan
Fri May 19, 2006 9:56 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Modern Day Bábís
Replies: 12
Views: 20127

I dont know Keyvan, I dont know any babi in my country, nor do i know what they do, if there are any. One thing I know for sure, is when i recite a short paragraph written by the Bab on some sunday mornings, sometimes old bahais say to me: "ah, what you read is from the Bab isn't it ? I recognized ...
by Keyvan
Fri May 19, 2006 9:54 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: United States NSA address?
Replies: 5
Views: 10770

United States NSA address?

does anyone have the address for a letterhead to the National Spiritual Assembly of the United States?

you can link it here or message me in privite

Keyvan
by Keyvan
Fri May 19, 2006 9:52 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: what to do?
Replies: 20
Views: 31051

Keyvan, On another note, would you consider it being mindful and proper representtion by intentionaly trying to hurt another Bahai's feelings when they are asking for guidance and comfort because that is what you did! In all honesty, I would much rather have to answer for working in a bar, than to ...
by Keyvan
Fri May 19, 2006 9:39 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: what to do?
Replies: 20
Views: 31051

Keyvan, Did you realize that you misspelled Baha'u'llah's name in your quotes. You did it more than once so according to your "opinion" it must be more than just a typo. However, I would not call you shady, stupid, or question your integrity because that would be rude, mean, and pointless! I unders...
by Keyvan
Thu May 18, 2006 3:23 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: teaching in the Holy Land
Replies: 14
Views: 22144

I would be interested to see Baha's original statement, if there is one. I wonder what geographical limits could have been meant? Obviously Israel did not exist back then. Haifa and Akka were part of...the Ottoman province of Syria? Or was it attached to Palestine yet? Since Baha DID try to promote...
by Keyvan
Thu May 18, 2006 3:14 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: what to do?
Replies: 20
Views: 31051

"Bahai" is no better than "Bahia", if you want to dwell on exactness. It is, in fact, spelled "Baha'i" in English. If you are able to type the accents over the second "a" and the "i", so much the better. Please don't correct others until you are certain of what is correct. I did read the quotes. It...
by Keyvan
Thu May 18, 2006 3:06 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Modern Day Bábís
Replies: 12
Views: 20127

they read the texts corrupted by Mirza Yahya. The books of the Bab have not as yet been printed in the original. Except for the Bayan, the Seven Proofs and Commentary on the Surih of Joseph, we cannot be sure of the authenticity of most of His other works as the text has been corrupted by the unfait...
by Keyvan
Thu May 18, 2006 2:59 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: words of the Bab
Replies: 3
Views: 8600

i wouldnt ask the tour guides on pilgrimage. i hate to say it but in my opinion they werent too knowledgable on things outside of what specifically they were touring. the UHJ members are definately knowledgable on all things The Guardian. if he kept that on his desk im sure they would know. The Ayad...
by Keyvan
Wed May 17, 2006 4:17 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: how bad would it be if you?...
Replies: 12
Views: 23040

lets keep in mind that what was presented here from Abdu'l Baha was a PILGRIMS NOTE however 1438. Pilgrim's Notes Reporting the Master's Words on Embracing and Kissing "The pilgrim's note reports the Master as saying: 'Women and men must not embrace each other when not married, or not about to be ma...
by Keyvan
Wed May 17, 2006 4:12 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: what to do?
Replies: 20
Views: 31051

First, I would like to thank you all for responding. Keyvan, I am sorry that I misspelled Bahai. I am assuming that is what you are refering to. I often misspell words. I have dyslexia and I flip letters around. I have done this all of my life and it is always the smaller words that I mess up on. A...
by Keyvan
Wed May 17, 2006 4:07 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Have you seen this? Kalimat Press petition
Replies: 24
Views: 39396

What you may have missed is that the petition for building the temple was the method that the Baha'is of US and Canada chose to appeal Abdu'l-Baha's decision that it wasn't time yet to build a temple. In a similar way, you also miss the point that the Baha'is petitioned Baha'u'llah even though He h...
by Keyvan
Wed May 17, 2006 4:06 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Have you seen this? Kalimat Press petition
Replies: 24
Views: 39396

Oh and there is another example: The UHJ had decided since its founding that the law of Huquq didn't apply to all believers (it does now but this is recent - stay with me). In the US convention, a while back (when the Huquq still applied to Iranian believers) there was a petition raised by the dele...
by Keyvan
Wed May 17, 2006 4:04 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Modern Day Bábís
Replies: 12
Views: 20127

these guys are whacked out.

they are desparate to discredit Hazrat Baha'u'llah, and they fabricate history until it is to their liking.
by Keyvan
Fri May 05, 2006 12:32 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: what to do?
Replies: 20
Views: 31051

furthermore, on the idea of using this as a teaching method... It is not sufficient to believe in Baha'o'llah and to say, "I am of the people of El-Abha"; we must act in accordance with the teachings of Baha'o'llah, who commands us to become centers of divine attraction, so that the attributes of Go...
by Keyvan
Fri May 05, 2006 12:22 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: what to do?
Replies: 20
Views: 31051

but anyway, the Baha'i faith is not a subjectively interpereted non-denomenational thing, we have things that are Makruh(discouraged), we have things that are Haram(prohibited), etc etc you should look through the writings for this, and find your answer. if you cannot find an answer in the writings,...
by Keyvan
Fri May 05, 2006 12:15 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: what to do?
Replies: 20
Views: 31051

Re: what to do?

Hi, I am a third generation Bahia and a mother of three. I concider myself to be extremely spiritual and very in love with the Bahia Faith. However, I know I am not perfect. I am currently working in a gental men's club as a bartender in order to have the funds I need to go to school and raise my c...
by Keyvan
Fri May 05, 2006 12:11 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: NSA Elections
Replies: 6
Views: 13182

this is a mixed bag addressed response... i agree that such qualities must be looked for. and no i was not a delegate. i agree that it comes down to teaching, absolutely, and we should never arise to the point where we "blame something" on officials. this is what CB's tend to do, i notice. i have he...
by Keyvan
Wed May 03, 2006 12:24 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: NSA Elections
Replies: 6
Views: 13182

NSA Elections

So they election of the National Spiritual Assembly of the United States came and went, and the same 9 were elected again. I dont say this to dissent or anything. When I was in the Holy Land a little over a month ago, someone asked a Universal House of Justice member what can be done about the same ...
by Keyvan
Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:53 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Six Steps to Spirituality
Replies: 6
Views: 14421

hmm i thought Huquq'u'llah was explicitly on that list

am i thinking of a different list?
by Keyvan
Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:51 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: teaching in the Holy Land
Replies: 14
Views: 22144

Interesting, I never thought about it. But do you really think that teaching the Bahai-Faith would would raise political tensions in Israel? I mean, for us of course, Baha'u'llah is abouve all. But to be honest: for the people in Israel, where there are so many religions, the Bahais are just one mo...
by Keyvan
Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:03 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: teaching in the Holy Land
Replies: 14
Views: 22144

it is a rule that Baha'u'llah established in the 1860's and carried through all this time. we didnt know back then, just like we didnt know why we couldnt eat pork during the Dispensation of Muhammad. there is no explicit reason why right now. but personally i think its pretty obvious that it would ...
by Keyvan
Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:00 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Evolution questions.
Replies: 3
Views: 8515

FOURTH PRINCIPLE -- THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE RELATION BETWEEN RELIGION AND SCIENCE 4 Avenue de Camoens, Paris, November 12th 'Abdu'l-Bahá said: I have spoken to you of some of the principles of Bahá'u'lláh: The Search after Truth and The Unity of Mankind. I will now explain the Fourth Principle, which ...
by Keyvan
Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:26 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Must I Belong to the AO in order to be a Baha'i?
Replies: 18
Views: 24135

correction, YOU might want to investigate the Will and Testament. no guy, im refering to Body which was ORDAINED by ABDU'l BAHA HIMSELF in the Will and Testament The Hands of the Cause of God must elect from their own number nine persons that shall at all times be occupied in the important services ...
by Keyvan
Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:07 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Must I Belong to the AO in order to be a Baha'i?
Replies: 18
Views: 24135

Simple answer: no. The Baha'i Faith and Baha'is existed long before the AO. MishkinQalam never had a Baha'i ID card afaik. Do yourself and everyone a service and just be a Baha'i. Or a Christian. Or Jew, or Muslim. Or whatever. The world needs more enlightened, spiritual beings. Not bureacratic, ca...
by Keyvan
Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:34 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Serious Question for Mr. Darrick Evenson
Replies: 3
Views: 7525

also mister evenson, if you are no longer a marangellaite anymore how come you have links to all his websites on yours
by Keyvan
Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:24 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Must I Belong to the AO in order to be a Baha'i?
Replies: 18
Views: 24135

marangella (who was the person who decided all this and coaxed remey into action, the Seyyid Muhammad to his Mirza Yahya) and his "interperetation" was full of loop holes that didnt pan out, and flat out contradictions of the sacred text, has been disproven time and time again in an abundand array o...
by Keyvan
Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:44 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Ridvan election suspension ???
Replies: 19
Views: 21986

ok by me if others want to follow other NSA leads, but I will point out what I think the ultimate outcome of such an event would be, must notablely any NSA that would not follow the lead of the American NSA , and again this is just the viewpoint of myself , would be leadly in an opposite direction ...
by Keyvan
Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:35 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Must I Belong to the AO in order to be a Baha'i?
Replies: 18
Views: 24135

hmm you sound like a glaysherite. hows mister cole's attempts to discredit the Covenant coming along? still getting foiled by more accurate translations? akh too bad. just keep hoping you guys will find justification someday ;) anyway. to dignify your child like attempt at a post by responding to it...
by Keyvan
Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:21 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Picture of Haifa Mashriq'ul-Azkar
Replies: 4
Views: 8096

i saw it when i was on pilgrimage. in several of the historic sites the rooms are decorated with pictures of Baha'i figures, art, pictures and miniature models of the shrines and Houses of Worship, of which included those for the House of Worship in Haifa. There is even one for the Shrine of Abdu'l ...
by Keyvan
Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:38 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Picture of Haifa Mashriq'ul-Azkar
Replies: 4
Views: 8096

Picture of Haifa Mashriq'ul-Azkar

I saw pictures and even a model of the Mashriq'ul-Azkar (House of Worship) they are planning to build in Haifa, but I havent seen any online. I asked the guides where I could find a picture outside of the sites, and one said there is one in The Baha'i World. does anyone know where I can access this ...
by Keyvan
Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:33 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Must I Belong to the AO in order to be a Baha'i?
Replies: 18
Views: 24135

Ere long will God sail His Ark upon thee, and will manifest the people of Baha who have been mentioned in the Book of Names.' (Baha'u'llah, The Tablet of Carmel) The construction of the mausoleum of the Báb, synchronizing with the birth of that state, and the progress of which has been accompanied ...
by Keyvan
Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:22 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Serious Question for Mr. Darrick Evenson
Replies: 3
Views: 7525

Serious Question for Mr. Darrick Evenson

ive read through your website now and then so i have a question. so when you come on here to ask questions, do you actually want to know, or are you using us as lab rats for your unscientific Baha'i polling for use in your little web articles? its like you dont even respond, you just ask the questio...
by Keyvan
Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:20 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Must I Belong to the AO in order to be a Baha'i?
Replies: 18
Views: 24135

Re: Must I Belong to the AO in order to be a Baha'i?

Must I be "enrolled" in order to be a Baha'i? Must I belong to a local Baha'i Community in order to be a Baha'i? Can I be a Baha'i without being a member of the AO? of course. its a New World Order. the NWO what will emerge through the AO. you have to be accounted for at least at SOME LEVEL within ...
by Keyvan
Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:44 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Was Adam the first human being on earth?
Replies: 28
Views: 47282

we didnt just materialize out of pixy dust my opinion after study of the writings is that we did evolve to the fullest extent that science can explain, but the point to which we call ourselves "MAN" is at the point Adam appeared. Adam must have held the last gene that separates us from "man: in the ...
by Keyvan
Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:40 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Combating Racism - by any means necessary
Replies: 22
Views: 36789

the american Baha'i community is stuck in the 60's and 70's this isnt to say racism isnt the most challenging issue anymore, but that so much of the community teaches it like some hippie philosophy, not relevent to religious context thats why weve fallen in numbers in this country in the 80's and 90...
by Keyvan
Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:09 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Can a Baha'i Believe in Scientific Racism???
Replies: 23
Views: 35419

having been a student of evolutionary anthropology there is absolutely no evidence and no successful attempt to classify races into evolutionary subspecies i dont have the quotes right now but it is explained that we are all scientifically equal and our racial differences are no more than surface le...
by Keyvan
Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:44 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Why do documents use the Christian Calendar?
Replies: 4
Views: 9500

yeah, but i mean, more on the idea of the UHJ using this system.
by Keyvan
Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:22 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Why do documents use the Christian Calendar?
Replies: 4
Views: 9500

Why do documents use the Christian Calendar?

i can understand why the administration currently, for convenience purposes we use the Christian dates and calendar, and not the Baha'i one. but are there any writings or letters that refer to this issue?
by Keyvan
Sun Feb 12, 2006 1:19 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Depicting Baha'u'llah in cartoons
Replies: 14
Views: 21132

all you ever do anytime ANYONE EVER MENTIONS the Quran, is talk down saying we dont need it. who are you to decide what is usage for better understanding the teachings of the current Dispensation, and what is primary use? NO ONE HERE has ever used the Quran for primary use. everyone knows that this ...
by Keyvan
Sat Feb 11, 2006 5:42 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Depicting Baha'u'llah in cartoons
Replies: 14
Views: 21132

i do see this a lot in majnuns post, though i dont understand what he wrote here. perhaps hes inferring something that only guest has picked up on so far. but i do think majnun goes way out of line. anytime ANYONE starts talking about the Quran he basically wants to throw it out. EVEN THOUGH THE GUA...
by Keyvan
Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:33 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: The Ashkabad House of Worship
Replies: 3
Views: 5958

The Ashkabad House of Worship

Does anyone know if there has been any talk about actually rebuilding the Ashkabad temple. now that soviet rule is gone, the opportunity seems feasible. Anyone hear anything?
by Keyvan
Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:26 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Bahá'í Mother Temple of South America
Replies: 6
Views: 10098

i went to a speech by Mr. Hariri yesturday...he said there is ONE last obsticle left, and its driving them crazy trying to get that approval... Hey Keyvan, could you tell us what the obstacle is? he said something about...a certain official (or officials) left needing to sign clearance. that is, fo...
by Keyvan
Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:28 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Bahá'í Mother Temple of South America
Replies: 6
Views: 10098

i went to a speech by Mr. Hariri yesturday, where he explained the whole process of how he designed it. its really incredible. he said there is ONE last obsticle left, and its driving them crazy trying to get that approval. one pence, is there anyway i can see your design. im curious as to other ide...
by Keyvan
Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:04 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: some questions
Replies: 8
Views: 13588

ok some one please answer this: Mírzá Muhammad `Alí 1852 - 1937, Abdul baha half brother have any successors through his sons? if so are they still claiming this right now? is there any bahai group (covenat breakers u can call them), that have a successor from the family line of Bahallah? ( and key...
by Keyvan
Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:02 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Bayan contradicts Quran
Replies: 4
Views: 8029

7. He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: in it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part there of that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hi...
by Keyvan
Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:01 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Bayan contradicts Quran
Replies: 4
Views: 8029

Al-Qiyamah (The Resurrection) Muslim Scholars speak of three types of resurrection: The Minor Resurrection (Al-Qiyamtu'l Sughra) which occurs at the hour of death for each individual, when the soul is released and it is made to discover the worth and recompense of its deeds. The intermediate Resurre...
by Keyvan
Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:56 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: some questions
Replies: 8
Views: 13588

well i understand how you say you dont want this repeat. but by the way you formulated your questions it seemed clear that you misunderstood some things. let alone your criticism of what Bahais know or not know is a charge you are not of a standing to make since you werent sure yourself anyway you a...
by Keyvan
Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:17 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: some questions
Replies: 8
Views: 13588

Re: some questions

the idea of the son of Imam al-Askari having lived in occultation was a MYTH by our beliefs. we believe he died a normal death, and his "return" was Manifest in THE BAB the son of Imam Hasan al-Askari thus has nothing to do with it that myth was made up by the Shia Ummah as a means to keep something...
by Keyvan
Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:41 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Manifestation vs. Prophet
Replies: 18
Views: 27922

the singular form of Elohim is El. Eloha isnt anything. by Manifest, we dont mean "manifesting God" that would imply a division of God; a Christianic concept corrected since the days of the Quran. what is Manifest is a reflection of the light of God, a reflection of that source, yet the source itsel...
by Keyvan
Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:50 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Dreams
Replies: 3
Views: 8476

Re: Dreams

Hasan wrote:I made this topic trying to calm the heated discussions. :wink:

In our writings dreams are taken as a proof of another world.



can you find the quote? thanks
by Keyvan
Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:08 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Proof from the Quran?
Replies: 23
Views: 39346

Muhammad referred to the Quran as the Quran. and Majnun will you knock it off with that nonsense. “Shoghi Effendi wishes me also to express his deep-felt appreciation of your intention to study the Qur'án. The knowledge of this revealed holy Book is, indeed, indispensable to every Bahá'í who wishes ...
by Keyvan
Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:42 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: who writes what is "commissioned by"?
Replies: 4
Views: 7703

hey. well i know about translations and how that works, but One Common Faith is an original text.

whose style?
by Keyvan
Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:27 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Infallibility of the House (was partly in another topic)
Replies: 22
Views: 28515

hes just trying to show you that the pilgrims note he sited is backed by signed/sealed legislation
by Keyvan
Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:53 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: who writes what is "commissioned by"?
Replies: 4
Views: 7703

who writes what is "commissioned by"?

im a little confused as to who exactly has the hand in writing something like One Common Faith i understand its under the supervision and approval of the UHJ, but where and of who does the authorship come in? Reflection on the challenge has prompted us to commission the commentary that follows. One ...
by Keyvan
Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:58 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Proof from the Quran?
Replies: 23
Views: 39346

i said my finding was that this is the most significant, strongest proof from the Quran. i have read many proofs, and read many books. this i did not read in any book. i was taught this directly from Dr. Moojan Momen himself it is possible i came across this proof before then, in his book, but overl...
by Keyvan
Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:02 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Proof from the Quran?
Replies: 23
Views: 39346

and no, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, and Hindus are not "believers" according to the Quran 62. Those who believe (in the Qur'án) and those who follow the Jewish (Scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians, and who believe in Allah and the last day, and work righteousness, shall ha...
by Keyvan
Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:46 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Proof from the Quran?
Replies: 23
Views: 39346

believers is used all over the Quran as the people of the Quran which lasts throughout the Dispensation to the point of Resurrection in 1260 they can be believers at one time, and then go astray. 11:120 is the instruction to the believers as they are first confronted with the dillema of 1260 from th...
by Keyvan
Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:34 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Proof from the Quran?
Replies: 23
Views: 39346

and proof of the aftermath of that is quite clear in the Islamic History post Heroic Age of the faith the caliphate ended, their lands divided, imperialized, corrupted, seized, exploited, war torn, etc etc, and all this, all of the suffering, even up till today in Iraq is a result of their persecuti...
by Keyvan
Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:27 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Proof from the Quran?
Replies: 23
Views: 39346

also, and i say this as NOT as primary of a proof as the Surah of Hud proof as I have just shown, in the Iqan Baha'u'llah explains that the Sun and the Moon are allegorical to Prophethood. this in mind, The Surah of the Sun (91, Al-Shams) is a revisit and reiteration what was shown in the Surah of H...
by Keyvan
Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:22 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Proof from the Quran?
Replies: 23
Views: 39346

if you read what i wrote after that you would see. Have you read the Surah of Hud? it is story after story of Messengers, Saleh, Hud, Noah, that came unto the people, but the people rejected them. Consequently, the people suffered. Again and again, Messenger after Messenger, rejected rejected reject...
by Keyvan
Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:04 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Proof from the Quran?
Replies: 23
Views: 39346

hey. the most significant from my findings is in the Surah of Hud specifically 11:120 120. All that We relate to thee of the stories of the apostles -- with it We make firm thy heart: in them there cometh to thee the Truth, as well as an exhortation and a message of remembrance to those who believe....
by Keyvan
Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:08 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Tablet of The Báb revealed posthumous?
Replies: 8
Views: 12855

i think what this might be refering to is Mirza Yahya "finishing" the Bayan after the ascention of The Bab.

Azalis uphold that Yahya was granted this right in the Will and Testament of The Bab. im not sure but i think this was part of Yahya's misinterperetation

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