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by Hasan
Tue May 31, 2005 11:36 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Aghsan - Afnan family trees
Replies: 12
Views: 15508

Keyvan wrote:do you think theres any record of the after 1957


Yes, I know (privately) someone is doing this, but I don't think he is the only one.
by Hasan
Tue May 31, 2005 11:23 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: The Two Stolen Cases of Baha'u'llah's Last Papers
Replies: 10
Views: 13109

Dear lucky Keyvan! This is a question asked to Ali Nakhjavani: http://bahai-library.com/?file=nakhjavani_talks_world_order&chapter=2 Q. If the two cases stolen by the Covenant-Breakers are found, what will be the situation regarding the possible falsification by them of the Holy Texts? A. This i...
by Hasan
Tue May 31, 2005 9:28 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Aghsan - Afnan family trees
Replies: 12
Views: 15508

In some ancient cultures the people had the custom to record their ancestors, a healthy custom I think.
by Hasan
Tue May 31, 2005 9:22 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A prophet may come before the end of a thousand years
Replies: 67
Views: 75931

Keyvan says: think what youre saying. Muhammadeans denounce The Bab saying that Imam Mahdi was to come and restore the system of the old, not bring something new. Dear Keyvan, I’m NOT saying the same as Shiahs’, please specify, and tell where I am saying that??? The House’s infallibility will lose n...
by Hasan
Tue May 31, 2005 9:07 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A prophet may come before the end of a thousand years
Replies: 67
Views: 75931

I foresee many people rising up claiming Prophethood, as is usually the case. Most definately 1 will rise far over them all making everyone else forgotten...as is always the case. Initially many will reject as their love for Baha'u'llah will be too great for detatchment, but many will accept. The i...
by Hasan
Tue May 31, 2005 6:35 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A prophet may come before the end of a thousand years
Replies: 67
Views: 75931

i mean i see why we need another, since we dont have a Guardian. I agree that since we have no more Guardian, we have no more interperetations or pertaining guidelines to go by....and it will get harder and harder to legislate as the years go on But with that, i think thats the indication that it W...
by Hasan
Tue May 31, 2005 12:25 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Aghsan - Afnan family trees
Replies: 12
Views: 15508

Re: Aghsan - Afnan family trees

Yeah, it is hard to follow the tree, especially the genealogic tree of Bahá'u'lláh, of the Báb is easier (there are a lot of Afnán), but I think is important to follow the tree, though there is no Aghsán alive or male descendents (spiritually talking), the genealogic sanguine tree continues anyway. ...
by Hasan
Tue May 31, 2005 12:11 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Another poll: When will begin the Golden Age?
Replies: 10
Views: 15802

It wouldnt start at 1844. It would start at the intimation of Baha'u'llah since He is the most recent Dispensation and the writings state that 1000 years begins its cycle at the intimation, so between August and December of 1852! Yes, I also think it is the paradise to live at the time of the Manif...
by Hasan
Mon May 30, 2005 11:50 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A prophet may come before the end of a thousand years
Replies: 67
Views: 75931

Keyvan, Guardian and Manifestation are possible after one thousand years. It is possible that the Manifestation will come exactly in 1,000 years, but is also possible more than 1,000 years (+1,000 or 2,000, who knows?). We don't know the future, the only we know is that Bahá'u'lláh says in 1,000 yea...
by Hasan
Mon May 30, 2005 11:29 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: "I am Jesus"
Replies: 12
Views: 20296

I asked Moojan Momen about this. you must understand. Baha'u'llah isnt neccessarily "explaining" these terms in the Iqan He was trying to give figurative spiritutal understanding. There are different explainations for these terms in many writings by Bahai scholors and Bab'i scholors of the past, di...
by Hasan
Mon May 30, 2005 10:47 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: "I am Jesus"
Replies: 12
Views: 20296

I think this is a Shi'i Hadith, not a Sunni Hadith. And also, Baha'u'llah may have been paraphrasing something Muhammad (PBUH & HF) said, that was not exactly "I am Jesus". 'Abdu'l-Baha does the same thing in I think Promulgation of Universal Peace about the Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH & HF) Mission. ...
by Hasan
Mon May 30, 2005 12:28 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A prophet may come before the end of a thousand years
Replies: 67
Views: 75931

i dont think we should say claim "guardianship" prophethood. but we really dont know how it will work out. maybe an Afnan will serve as the forerunner and an Aghsan as the follow up Grand manifestation.... sounds cute huh? lol Yeah Keyvan, all of this is speculation, so I personally think bahá'í co...
by Hasan
Sun May 29, 2005 9:41 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Exercise
Replies: 3
Views: 24779

This says Bahá'u'lláh in His Lawh-i-Tibb (provisional trans.) http://bahai-library.com/?file=bahaullah_lawh_tibb_anonymous Exercise is good when the stomach is empty; it strengthens the muscles. When the stomach is full, exercise is very bad. Bah "Lawh-i-Tibb". There are other quotes in Light of Gui...
by Hasan
Sat May 28, 2005 3:38 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A prophet may come before the end of a thousand years
Replies: 67
Views: 75931

He, the divine Being, and unknowable Essence, hath, Himself, testified that this Book is, beyond all doubt and uncertainty, the guide of all mankind until the Day of Resurrection. All have been enjoined to follow the precepts of that Book until "the year sixty"[1] -- the year of the advent of God's ...
by Hasan
Fri May 27, 2005 2:19 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: My Gratitude
Replies: 4
Views: 7430

Re: My Gratitude

I don't know if this is appropriate, but I want to thank everyone for the support--and the supporting literature. It has made me a stronger Baha'i, and reminded me that I was always attracted to the common sense that is part of the Faith. Thanks Although I am not intervened in this, I think that's ...
by Hasan
Fri May 27, 2005 8:59 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A prophet may come before the end of a thousand years
Replies: 67
Views: 75931

Thanks Brent and Jonah, I had already waste my knowledge on this subject. Writings and prophecies for the coming of next Manifestation are clear in time and I think they are one part of the great Covenant we humankind have with God (2300, 1844, 1260, 1000 years, etc.)
by Hasan
Wed May 25, 2005 2:52 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: censorship and the viability of the Baha'i faith
Replies: 14
Views: 22497

the baha'i faith will never get anywhere. You people won't even discuss whether or not the Faith accepts child molesting fathers. Because of this attitude, I am leaving the faith and speaking against it The Bahá'í Faith does not accept fathers molesting children, or women or men. The Bahá'í law is ...
by Hasan
Tue May 24, 2005 12:48 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A prophet may come before the end of a thousand years
Replies: 67
Views: 75931

I hope others will also contribute. Thanks Hasan for being the only one helping me here. No problem, all your questions help us to pour light in this issue, but to be honest I am getting tired, I have also write widely about the same issue in other topic in this same forum. So its just your thought...
by Hasan
Mon May 23, 2005 5:53 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A prophet may come before the end of a thousand years
Replies: 67
Views: 75931

Dear Farid, I would like to clarify what I mean. 1- I said: they have the task to recognize the station of the next Prophet Had they the task to elucidate that there cannot be another Guardian? Of course! , I interpret that they also have the task to elucidate obscure matters not covered by the Book...
by Hasan
Mon May 23, 2005 1:43 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A prophet may come before the end of a thousand years
Replies: 67
Views: 75931

1-the authority of the UHJ is only on its domain of activities; this issue is not in the domain. You also see on many other issues that when UHJ or even guardian were asked on something, they would would say as an answer that they did'nt know the answer. Their authority doesn't mean that they know ...
by Hasan
Sun May 22, 2005 2:57 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A prophet may come before the end of a thousand years
Replies: 67
Views: 75931

Dear Farid, I think it had never been easy and will never be easy for people to recognize the station of the Prophet as the Íqán says, there are always tests by means of God discern the true believers. I can imagine the situation in year 2823 or 2852 AD maybe some people filled of ambition of power ...
by Hasan
Sun May 22, 2005 1:52 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A prophet may come before the end of a thousand years
Replies: 67
Views: 75931

Solar, I believe... Stephen Lambden thinks it's solar. From http://bahai-library.com/resources/tablets-notes/lawh-ridvan/notes.html : Dear Jonah, thanks to write, I also think solar years, but, what about this quote: "twelve months according to the Qur'án, and of nineteen months of nineteen da...
by Hasan
Sat May 21, 2005 3:53 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A prophet may come before the end of a thousand years
Replies: 67
Views: 75931

Farid, 1000 years not 100 years! yes, "one thousand years". The authority of the House is unchallengeable, don't mix the things. The House is not an Institution created by men, but it is created by Bahá'u'lláh Himself, in fact, all the machinery of the New World Worder is created by the Manifestatio...
by Hasan
Sat May 21, 2005 11:12 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: My bahai father molested me
Replies: 10
Views: 16055

Re: my bahai father molested me

I think it is an issue of legal, moral and spiritual consequences. I can't comment because it is a matter of Bahá'í Institutions, the Bahá'í Law is not yet here, but I think you should not leave the Faith, but it is just my opinion. Your problem is so hard, but I have to say that Bahá'u'lláh always ...
by Hasan
Sat May 21, 2005 10:58 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A prophet may come before the end of a thousand years
Replies: 67
Views: 75931

Re: A prophet may come before the end of a thousand years

The belief of finality of the teachings or prophet of a certain religion has been a test for all major faiths. It brings to mind this problem that what Bahai's will be tested on if they are not being tested by this. They don't believe that their prophet is the last prophet or that Bahai teachings w...
by Hasan
Sat May 14, 2005 1:00 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: alif lam mim
Replies: 7
Views: 12770

Anonymous wrote:Fortunate, immeasurably fortunate are those that can comprehend Arabic.
Lucy Van Den Broek


I agree with you Lucy, also fortunate are people who can pay an institue or teacher for that purppose (to study Arabic or Persian)
by Hasan
Wed May 11, 2005 12:23 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: The next prophet
Replies: 25
Views: 39164

What I call you is my astonishment, because not all materialists who supposedly investigate are so rude and uncivil. But, if you remain in this forum, I could say that after all, you still want to hear something. However, you have to open your mind and your soul (by the way, do you think you have a ...
by Hasan
Tue May 10, 2005 2:31 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: The next prophet
Replies: 25
Views: 39164

First, I hope writing this I do not waste time because of “hard heads” of materialists and mindless. Second, Mr. Anonymous :lol: , I suppose you purpose of writing here is “investigation” of the Faith, or to get some insights of aspects of the Bahá’í Faith. If that is correct, then, it seems hard di...
by Hasan
Mon May 09, 2005 1:27 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 35867

Thank you, Hasan, for those quotes. That's all very helpful. I won't try, now, to respond to all your concerns about what I'm doing. Right now I'm only trying to answer any questions that might help clarify what I'm looking for. Jim JIM: Ok, I found what you want. I have a book of a famous scholar,...
by Hasan
Sun May 08, 2005 10:25 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: The next prophet
Replies: 25
Views: 39164

Well Hasan, by your logic I could be the next manifestation, and you would be in the wrong for not recognizing me. Granted that I haven't fulfilled any prophecies and have overlooked various restrictions (like the 1000-year thing from Baha'u'llah), but then the promised one does whatever he wills.....
by Hasan
Sun May 08, 2005 12:49 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: The next prophet
Replies: 25
Views: 39164

Guest wrote: If God is constrained, then Baha'u'llah is wrong. For he did not fulfill all the prophetic traditions, nor did he wait for the Bab's dispensation to come true. Observing twice your message, I noticed you are completely wrong, because actually you are accusing Bahá’u’lláh in the same Jew...
by Hasan
Sat May 07, 2005 4:39 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: The next prophet
Replies: 25
Views: 39164

Anonymous: The next Manifestation alone, is the only Being that can abrogate previous laws (Bahá'u'lláh's), This next Manifestations (and all previous ones) fulfill these words: 'He doeth whatsoever He willeth' in the world of Creation. So, this is the Cycle of Bahá'u'lláh (500,000 years), but His D...
by Hasan
Wed May 04, 2005 4:18 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: The next prophet
Replies: 25
Views: 39164

Not related to what kkawohl said, but I have prepared some “questions and answers” about what could happen in one thousand years. In first place, the note # 62 (p.195) of the Kitáb-i-Aqdas: 62. Whoso layeth claim to a Revelation direct from God, ere the expiration of a full thousand years # 37 The D...
by Hasan
Tue May 03, 2005 11:07 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 35867

Why promote first?

In fact, I don't understand why the first choice of one should be *promote* an idea contrary to the messages of the House instead of studying them, more knowing that promoting (disseminate, work for) an idea which is contrary to the House’s views could provoke confusion and then commotion inside the...
by Hasan
Tue May 03, 2005 10:18 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 35867

Quotes

I think it's an abuse of the writings of the Universal House of Justice to interpret them as placing boundaries around the kinds of ideas we can promote. In fact, it seems to me that one of the aims of the campaign of internal opposition has been to plant that very idea in people's minds, to create...
by Hasan
Mon May 02, 2005 1:50 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 35867

One last thing

One last thing, I forget to put an example of disloyalty and contention with the Authoritative Writings. For example, if one promote the idea insisting that Bahá’u’lláh permits two wives, then he is going against the Authoritative interpretation of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá the infallible Interpreter and designa...
by Hasan
Mon May 02, 2005 1:20 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 35867

Jim, I see now you are bahá'í, a first glimpse of your first messages seemed you are not. What if it were possible to promote disobedience to the Universal House of Justice, without creating a schism? Can you think of any other Baha'i writings that you think specify limits on the kinds of ideas we c...
by Hasan
Sun May 01, 2005 10:11 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 35867

Finally, I come back to my original request, which is for writings that anyone thinks place limits on the *kinds* of ideas we can promote. Does anyone see any writings, including those of the Universal House of Justice, that specify ideas that we are forbidden to promote? Jim What limits do you wan...
by Hasan
Sun May 01, 2005 2:18 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Limits to promoting ideas
Replies: 27
Views: 35867

Re: Limits to promoting ideas

I think it's better for Baha'u'llah's purposes for every person, including every follower of Bahau'llah, to promote whatever she believes in, even if it's contrary to the words of God Himself. The action to promote an idea by an individual has not always beneficial results, more if such ideas are c...
by Hasan
Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:26 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Where does it actually talk about kissing in the Writings
Replies: 12
Views: 18953

Is there something in the Writings specific about bowing, or do you just interpret the note we have been talking about this way? No, is my interpretation. I think the Teachings say we have to show moderation and respect each other, but no manners are regulated except the abolition of the practice "...
by Hasan
Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:36 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Where does it actually talk about kissing in the Writings
Replies: 12
Views: 18953

Ok. I do not know what I should do, then. Everyone hugs each other in my community, men, women, old, young. I can't just turn someone down like that and be cold. On the other hand, if this is the guidance, then I think I should follow it. This is going to require some meditating. My humble opinion ...
by Hasan
Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:40 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Where does it actually talk about kissing in the Writings
Replies: 12
Views: 18953

Kissing

I found these two authoritative statements, I have to say that it is not a law, but we have to effort to reach the high Bahá'í standards, although it is not easy in this society. 1210. Kissing in Modern Society is Detrimental to Morals "What Bahá'u'lláh means by chastity certainly does not include t...
by Hasan
Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:55 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Budding Bahai
Replies: 16
Views: 27918

Why always Dawud?

Dawud: If you want to be impartial, please leave searchers of the Faith (like Kira) alone to investigate the Faith in the authoritative writings? or what are you afraid of? :shock: The best book that I can suggest to the friends to initiate in their research is "Some Answered Questions" of 'Abdu'-Ba...
by Hasan
Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:22 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Is the Virginity so important for a bahá'í?
Replies: 30
Views: 37535

dawud

Does it count if you have Conscious Genital Contact with yourself? :D My point is that the supposedly progressive Baha'i scriptures are actually regressive in that they accept as normative a sexist--and let's face it, repulsive--Middle Eastern folk custom. Obviously I was talking between "contact" ...
by Hasan
Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:10 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Is the Virginity so important for a bahá'í?
Replies: 30
Views: 37535

Hasan, did you really mean to include kissing? Not kissing, but maybe any kind of sex is the same any "conscious genital contact", I don't know if term "sexual contact" has been fully defined by Bahá'ís texts so far. Brett, if these scriptural sources are so wise, why didn't Baha'u'llah or somebody...
by Hasan
Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:20 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Is the Virginity so important for a bahá'í?
Replies: 30
Views: 37535

My personal opinion is that any man who insists on marrying a virgin is going to miss out on a lot of wonderful women. And it will serve him right. I need to comment on this: I agree with you. You get my point. That is the kernel of this issue of "virginity". I say when a person want to choose a co...
by Hasan
Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:33 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Is the Virginity so important for a bahá'í?
Replies: 30
Views: 37535

One other point... I think it is a fallacy not to consider chastity as a moral issue... As it is phrased in Messages from the Universal House of Justice 1963-86 brettz9, you took some points and I need to explain my opinion. I'm clear by saying these comments and poll are not to criticize in any wa...
by Hasan
Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:30 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Is the Virginity so important for a bahá'í?
Replies: 30
Views: 37535

To Anonymous

Not a Baha'i, so you probably don't want my opinion of virginity. Your opinion is important, this issue of virginity is still a "taboo" for some people. :o It is interesting that the UHJ seems to realize that no satisfactory test of virginity exists, or can exist. Traditional Middle Eastern societi...
by Hasan
Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:14 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Is the Virginity so important for a bahá'í?
Replies: 30
Views: 37535

Hasan - Your poll is inappropriate because the Baha'i Faith is God-given religion. It is not a political party influenced by popular opinion. There is a democratic element in the Baha'i Faith, but only as concerns the administration. The Baha'i Teachings are not subject to alteration, except where ...
by Hasan
Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:08 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Is the Virginity so important for a bahá'í?
Replies: 30
Views: 37535

Is the Virginity so important for a bahá'í?

ok, I am not the 'poll man', but the answers reflects in some way what is the currently thinking and the comments show us in some way too our development.
Want to vote? :oops:
by Hasan
Tue Oct 05, 2004 2:54 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: last poll about teaching
Replies: 0
Views: 7029

last poll about teaching

Do you teach? Of course!

Too much polls no?

sorry for my poor English
by Hasan
Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:36 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Another poll: When will begin the Golden Age?
Replies: 10
Views: 15802

Another poll: When will begin the Golden Age?

This poll is just to have some fun. Anyone want to vote?
by Hasan
Mon Oct 04, 2004 2:06 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: How many bahá'ís are in the World?
Replies: 14
Views: 20947

How many bahá'ís are in the World?

Do you think like me or not? My really option is around 4 millions. Let us know!

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