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even if Tyranny abounds and rules the lands and grounds

mankind knows

"The earth is not man’s home

..."

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Bahá’u’lláh and the New Era

Author: J. E. Esslemont

Pages: 286

send a private message to me and I can mail you a hard copy

the book is also online

http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/je/BNE/

scan through the contents page ... very illuminating ...

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"to a lesser extent Their prophecies "

???

why is that ?

one would think that would be more important
perhaps even the most important aspect of any religion that can be considered

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By MAGGIE MICHAEL – 5 hours ago CAIRO (AP) — Dozens of Muslim villagers have attacked the homes of members of the minority Baha'i religion in southern Egypt, hurling firebombs and denouncing them as "enemies of God," human rights groups said Thursday. The attacks began Saturday after a pro...

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He can come up with a hypothesis, plan an experiment, reason about the results, and then plan his next steps. Now ADAM is the first robot—but maybe not the last—to have independently discovered new scientific information, according to scientists who recently built themselves the mechanical colleague...

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this is the dawning of the age of Baha'u'llah

the age of Baha'u'llah

of Baha'u'llah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9se9x0vd32A

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irregardless of past performance

with a stroke of His pen

the temporal can become permanent

(i am) / we are

Zion Zion Zion

forever

amen

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... That means that in the World Order model, you need not three but six different categories: the civil three of Legislative/executive/judiciary, the religious three of worship/doctrine/law, and then plus two: "Head of the Faith" and "Sovereignty." The sovereignty of a nation c...

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"The LSAs and NSAs and UHJ are the "rulers of Baha" : they can and do appoint people to exercise their authority. " yes ... this supreme theocracy is beginning to shape within our mind ... within our theocracy there is judicial, executive, and legislative functions each are inter...

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placed

within each soul

light so awesome

it fixes our world

///

dh note ... play off the stars ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RhARv98Ktg

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north south

east west

our Community is the place we love the best

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dh note .. inspired by and written for BritishBahai

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l e t t e r s

letters

black and white

form shapes

upon sight

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q deals with application of Law

answer

should also dwell into serving in the Spirit of the Law

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Zion the smell of freshly cut grass the tint of colour from a raindrop our broken stick all parts particles and spacial relations Zion our home how we yearn *smile* yet are so week ... still Zion forever ... in our heart in our dreams in every waking thought & deed Zion forever we pray ... keep ...

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"LSAs can also establish other legal entities that have a particular function" that is at the heart of what i am trying to understand ... if we use the term "Ruler" as a legal term from The Kitab-i-Aqdas does the LSA have {a legal} Authority to appoint a Ruler ? or because The Ki...

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"The LSA is not able to surrender any of its authority, but it can delegate the exercise of its authority."

basically we agree ...

would capitalize first authority

The LSA is not able to surrender any of its Authority, but it can delegate the exercise of its authority.

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it appears the Question still remains with no clear uniformed answer that all can agree upon ... The Question being ... Who has the Authority to rename a LSA a House of Justice. We contend that the only legal way is by amendment to The Constitution of The Universal House of Justice, of course there ...

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yes ... we often hear the noise ...

thanks for pointing out how beautiful it is ...

at times one can scarcely imagine the final outcome ...

yet .. at certain peaks .... breath taking

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atlas shrugged off His crown

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ariant.jpg

a story of the modern day nebuchadnezzars
as demonstrated by the followers of Ann Rand

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words

black or white

form

s e
h p
a

upon sight

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eat drink and be Mary

or Tom , John and/or Sally

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coatofmanycolours wrote:"...the Amish ... "never taking revenge" ... "

... the Amish pass it on to all the young ...

yes ... really a good point ...

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I am you

you are Me

why then

do we disagree

oneness,
dh

note ... varying inflection and cadence

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hey ... wow ... awesome study / link thanks interesting enough ... found what i sort of was looking for right away ... from the Amish ... "never taking revenge" ... on a personal note ... i think that is one of the toughest things for me ... "never taking revenge" ... i mean ... ...

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"The promise is fulfilled" yes ... my point exactly ... "The promise is fulfilled" ... thus Zion is here ... yet none we know of say Zion is here ... Why is that ? ... is it because we do not believe it to be a physical place ... but clearly in past Scripture Zion was a physical ...

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"the meaning of the Testament and of the Covenant"

The Baha'i World Administration Center and The Universal House of Justice

Zion

yes/no/maybe

????

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Onepence; Sorry for my mistake. I do not have very much experience on this site and the very idea that someone would try to hurt the Baha'i Faith, is painful to me. I was trying to read between the lines and am quite capable of making an error in trying to discern the motives of other writers. take...

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Onepence; ... I hope I have read you wrong, because otherwise something in your words smells bad. -Peter Yes ... you are reading me wrong ... so far ... you are the only one that deeply questions by style of writing ... and for this i am grateful to you ... for it is very interesting to see another...

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"The name Zion appears 154 times in the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible)."

"This could be a literal place such as in Ethiopia for Rastafari for example. For others, it has taken on a more spiritual meaning—a safe spiritual homeland ... "

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Because (to the best of my knowledge), Zion is the old word and was the word used when those particular Bahai writings were written. They were written in the 1850s or whenever. Zion was the word used back then. Zion refers to a geographical place. Now if the name has changed, you have no other choi...

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Onepence; Yet another subtle suggestion, this time making use of the emotional punch-words 'Zion' and 'Zionism' to hint of a link with the spiritual institutions of the Faith. Do you do this sort of thing for a living? -Peter *smile* geesh ... if only we could make a livin off our writings ... lol ...

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"Within current Baha'i Administration, is it acceptable for an LSA to appoint a Ruler ?" Onepence; "current" Administration? Are you hinting at a revision? And why would anyone want to suggest that an LSA had power over politics? That is not its function. You have a gift for sub...

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We hear the phrase ... " Cry out to Zion " ... also Zion is mentioned elsewhere Explain Zion ... now ... i could be way way way way way way way off base .... but recently i have been thinking that The Baha'i World Administration Center is Zion ... is that right ... ??? ... pretty profound ...

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Question : Within current Baha'i Administration, is it acceptable for an LSA to appoint a Ruler ? for instance, a LSA wants to keep official time for some events ... say like at public comments at Feast or perhaps even at a track and field met or some sports event. could the LSA appoint said officia...

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yes ...

Prophecy being fulfilled ...

it would have way be interesting to look at ... and discuss ...

our World as being Prophecy fulfilled

interesting times

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November 24, 2008 - http://edition.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/conditions/11/24/aids.tagging.indonesia.ap/index.html?eref=edition AKARTA, Indonesia (AP) -- Lawmakers in Indonesia's remote province of Papua have thrown their support behind a controversial bill requiring some HIV/AIDS patients to be implanted...

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lol *smile* yes ... being tested every day is a challenge ... a glorious challenge ... *smile* ... even *rolly eye* ... but ... lol ... *smile* my problems often extended into ... well , really perceptional problems ... I am a stay at home dad to a 3 yr old son the wife works 3p-11p I think ... gees...

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Shalom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shalom Shalom (שָׁלוֹם) is a Hebrew word meaning peace, completeness, and welfare ... The Word "shalom" can be used for all parts of speech; as a noun, adjective, verb, and as an adverb. ... end ... dh note ... yes ... Shalom ... might be a good title fo...

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odd ... Baha'i Faith also not mentioned here ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace

this also should be rectified ... at least add

The Promise of World Peace ...

hmmm ...

sooner or later we will get around to it ...

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Peace churches ... advocating Christian pacifism ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_churches

The Historic Peace Churches ... held as central the Christian calling to follow Jesus’ injunctions to love enemies ...

http://web.archive.org/web/200703021957 ... g/who.html

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Religious Society of Friends ... Quakers ... founded in England in the 17th century ... began in England in 1648 ... ... 360 yrs old ... *smile* side note ... "In the 1670 "Hay-market case", William Penn was accused of the crime of 'preaching Quakerism to an unlawful assembly', and wh...

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from wikipidea ... don't think we agree with this statement ... yet ... it has been noted ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace "In her capitalism peace theory, philosopher Ayn Rand [3] holds that the major wars of history were started by the more controlled economies of the time against the f...

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just curious ... what is the longest reign of peace within any government/law structure ... ??? Would Eskimos count ... ?? It would seem as if some small island nation ... maybe ... has never been to war ... ??? Switzerland ... ??? ... officially ... ??? ... neutral ... ??? what is the longest reign...

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Just wondering...what book is everyone reading right now? Ive just started The Priceless Pearl and LOVE Ruhiyyih Khanom's style of writing. I havent even finished the first chapter and im already glued :D :smile: yes ... The Priceless Pearl ... great description ... little facts bring this book to ...

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Thank you for your candor, .... your honesty makes our honesty even more honest ... *smile* It would seem to be an almost impossible task to describe 20 years of acquired knowledge, however to sum up our experience we would hold to tradition of what One is reported as saying before enlightenment ch...

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BritishBahai wrote:

... keep on topic in a study session. People always chit-chat afterwards and believe me it can go on for hours sometimes! but its interesting listening to people's debates etc.

yes ... keep on topic in a study session.

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MasterKey wrote: ...

Baha’is often become quite emotional when considering ....

*humble smile* ... Wow ...

thanks MasterKey ... very well written ... much to think about ...

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unveiling of Venus de Milo with neumes

The Birth of Jesus

The printing of the Bible

the use of penicillin

The Signing of The Universal House of Justice Constitution

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scratch Columbus voyage into the uncharted waters of the Atlantic add unveiling of Venus de Milo with Neumes note : there is more to Venus de Milo than meets the common eye that is to say ... what really was Venus de Milo holding ... ??? *smile* note : Neumes ... fancy word for musical notation ... ...

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Kate123 wrote:
... Once we have moved to a perfect closeness to God, we will no longer need our physical selves because we will be completely spiritual beings.

Does this fit in with Bahai beliefs? ....

hmm ...

Once we study Abdu'l Baha more closely the answers will become more clear ...

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... My question is to those who grew up in families of other faiths: did your family feel that you had "turned your back" on their traditions, or dismiss your search for truth as being without a moral compass? and if so how did you resolve this while still embracing them as family? Thank ...

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... I do not see how to bring these two views together, although maybe I am missing the point. In any event, thanks again! Hi Sam, It is great to see your questions being answered ... *smile* and ... wow ... seems as if Loren did a fine job of going over some of those answers with you ... ... perha...

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Hi Sam welcome to our little forum ... We have enjoyed reading your post and hope that you find the friendship here filled with both expected and unexpected expressions of love, devotion and faithfulness. As time permits we hope to address all the questions and issues you have brought up here *smile...

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Sen McGlinn wrote: ...

Been there ever since, in a way.
Sen

*smile*

yes ... i had a chance to serve Green Acre ...

the Library there is awesome

*smile*

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I am from the United States. I first heard of the Baha'i Faith when i was a small boy looking through an encyclopedia. When i asked about it , my parents had never heard of it, and when i asked my priest {methodist} He said there was a small group of Baha'is in Gulfport , MS about a town 30 miles aw...

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Abu Talib wrote:Then how would you interpret this verse?

[51:56] And I have not created the jinn and the men except that they should serve Me.

"He beholdeth justice in injustice, and in justice, grace."

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... ... "As to the meaning of the quotation, 'My fears are for Him Who will be sent down unto you after Me', this refers to the Manifestation Who is to come after a thousand or more years, Who like all previous Messengers of God will be subjected to persecutions, but will eventually triumph ov...

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... The National Spiritual Assemblies do have jurisdiction over their own regions (subject to the Universal House of Justice), but this would seem to be a pretty hefty decision to make on their own. .. Brett yes ... a pretty hefty decision ... we contend that the only action that can be proven to b...

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the short answer is no. The National and Local Assemblies will eventually evolve into Houses of Justice when the Universal House of Justice says so. Its a very momentous step when that happens and I don't see any conceivable reason why the jurisdiction to do so would be anywhere outside the authori...

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Dear openence~2, It looks that this issue is very important to you (Most active topic: House authority) would you please write a letter with your question to the Universal House of Justice and share with us their answer? at one point of this discussion we had seriously thought about submitting our ...

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and ... what is granted ... " ... the National Spiritual Assemblies, ..." and ... AMENDMENT This Constitution may be amended by decision of the Universal House of Justice when the full membership is present. hmmm ... so perhaps naming is function of both The Universal House of Justice and ...

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... This is simply a name... Brett True .. to a certain extent ... The question is who has the Power to name ? does an individual have the power to name to a certain extent individuals do have the power to name one can name a rose by any other name and it would still smell as sweet but most individ...

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" The legislative body must reinforce the executive, ... " thus we have LSA'a not Houses of Justice since our Faith is a World Faith, not subject only to a certain region, sect a "National House of Justice" seems very out of place to us in fact ... other Nations may laugh/scorn s...

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... human society will never become fully mature. best wishes, Brett Wow ... hard to believe ... we contend that individuals within human society may never become fully mature, yet human society itself is mature otherwise we would have never signed The Universal House of Justice Constitution in oth...

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"There is one more law related to time and marriage" would be a more precise phrase ...

so ... thank you for adding to our knowledge

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... The views of God in Islam are almost identical to the Baha'i views but that God ceased to alter His religion for mankind, though he does cease to give us guidance. We are not aware that God has ever altered His religion the "Eternal Truth" can never be altered nor can guidance ever ce...

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What does being persian have to do with this law? it is only in the current application of this Law that being Persian has any significance. However ... on a personal note ... we would like to think that the next Manifestations will be "brought up in the Persian tradition, speak Persian, and a...

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slava_sz wrote: ...
There is one more law related to time: all ceremonies, religious and civil as well as the physical contact should be within 24 hours. ...

*smile* .... this makes sense ... yet ... we would like source documentation

thanks

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Hello Dean and all, ... The role of the Universal House of Justice, in the future, in removing the "temporary" appellation, would merely be applying the laws of Baha'u'llah according to the needs of the time, as it is charged to do--not arrogating to itself rights it did not possess (whic...

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