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- Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:12 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Reservations needed for visiting Baha'i gardens in Haifa?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 18016
Still no word from Baha'i sources about the procedure for visiting the Gardens (Terraces), but I did get a friend who lives in Haifa to telephone them. Here's what he says: I phoned the number you gave me, and they say you have to reserve one day in advance, and that the place is open all week excep...
- Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:45 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: link to a schedule/guide to study the writings in two years?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 15327
link to a schedule/guide to study the writings in two years?
[Edit: this thread is in response to a question about a schedule or guide for studying the Baha'i Writings in two years according to the injunction that we study the Writings every morn and eve, which has since been deleted. -J.W.] I remember seeing that too (though not so recently--more like severa...
- Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:19 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Pilgrimage
- Replies: 7
- Views: 14978
No, Sikhism and Jainism are not on the list of religions whose founders are officially recognized as prophets. This would tend to interfere with the notion of a thousand-year prophetic aeon. (The Sikh gurus came after Muhammad, and Mahavira was a contemporary of Sakyamuni Buddha.) However, I do beli...
- Tue Nov 23, 2004 4:00 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Messengers of God
- Replies: 20
- Views: 32452
Part of the usual definition of "Adam" is "the first man." If I say that I believe in Adam, but not that he was the first man, what on earth am I saying? It sounds like Baha'is would change it to "the first prophet," no matter who he/she was or what his/her name was. (Alley Oop, perhaps.) The same p...
- Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:52 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Reservations needed for visiting Baha'i gardens in Haifa?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 18016
I heard back from them on the museum question. They say that technically there is no "Baha'i museum," only a collection of "relics" attached to the archives, which only Baha'i pilgrims are permitted to see. Requests for information by outsiders may in principle be considered, but they're real busy a...
- Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:04 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Messengers of God
- Replies: 20
- Views: 32452
You believe that certain other religions are animated with a spiritual spark which legitimizes them, but which you possess in greater abundance--by which I mean, you see yourselves as more suitable for the modern age. Everybody else ought to join you, if they only understood their own religions arig...
- Wed Nov 17, 2004 11:59 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Messengers of God
- Replies: 20
- Views: 32452
I do appreciate the difficulty. Of course I too have my own "little system" which I try to stuff everybody else into (though on the other hand, I don't claim that other religions really secretly agree with me deep down). Appeal to historians' judgment might be a good basis for discussion (many, perh...
- Wed Nov 17, 2004 11:02 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Pilgrimage
- Replies: 7
- Views: 14978
Mecca is only open to Muslims. A Baha'i intent on visiting would have to lie about his religion, which the Baha'i religion does not allow (other forms of Shi'ism do). Besides Jerusalem, other "Baha'i-friendly" pilgrimage spots include the birthplaces of Krishna (Vrindavan, India) and Buddha (Lumbini...
- Wed Nov 17, 2004 10:56 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Messengers of God
- Replies: 20
- Views: 32452
In all probability, the original Sabaeanism had no founder. So Baha'is accept prophets called "Krishna" and "Adam" (or other-language equivalents), but know nothing about them other than (a version of) their names? This makes the affirmation meaningless. It's like saying that I believe in Jesus, but...
- Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:53 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Messengers of God
- Replies: 20
- Views: 32452
Several big problems with "native messengers of God" category. (1) Who gets to be considered a "native"? Examples: the Tibetan Bon religion, Mongolian worship of Genghiz Khan, Chinese folk religion. (There seems to be a fundamental tension between the concept of aboriginality, and the insistence on ...
- Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:31 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Cloning?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 14666
One more idea. I wonder if the original question wasn't motivated by the assumption that a clone would be a human creation, whereas a "normal" child would be the result of nature or God. In fact cloning also involves natural material. We are comfortable with the idea that children conceived through ...
- Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:47 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Reservations needed for visiting Baha'i gardens in Haifa?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 18016
Reservations needed for visiting Baha'i gardens in Haifa?
I may have the good fortune to travel to Haifa soon, and would very much like to visit the Baha'i gardens. Do I need to sign up in advance? If so, how? (I am not a Baha'i.) I also understand that the Baha'is have some sort of museum with artifacts related to the Babi movement. Are outsiders admitted...
- Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:12 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Messengers of God
- Replies: 20
- Views: 32452
Those Iraqi followers of John the Baptist are called Mandaeans. Basic information about them can be found in Kurt Rudolf's book "Gnosis". The term "Sabean" has been claimed by any number of groups whose members wished to secure protection for their religious beliefs. In all likelihood it originally ...
- Mon Nov 08, 2004 6:07 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Should Bahais read 5 non-Baha'i books for every Baha'i book?
- Replies: 1
- Views: 7438
Should Bahais read 5 non-Baha'i books for every Baha'i book?
I ran across this by accident on another site, unrelated to Baha'is: Yesterday I had a lovely lunch with two friends one J, a student of AAB & the other L, of Ba'hai faith. We shared our love of God, our desire to see improvements in ourselves & the world & a growth through sharing of each other's l...
- Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:01 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Universal House of Justice
- Replies: 1
- Views: 7070
Here is a website with the names and personal information of UHJ members as of 2003: http://www.onecountry.org/e151/e15108as_elections_story.htm And the crucial extract: The elections this year for the Universal House of Justice were marked by the retirement of two long-serving members: Ali Nakhjava...
- Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:00 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Celebrations
- Replies: 1
- Views: 6045
Here's a link. NB: only nine-ish of these are official.
http://www.wheeloftheyear.com/2004/baha%27i.htm
http://www.wheeloftheyear.com/2004/baha%27i.htm
- Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:52 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Baha'u'llah versus Daniel Quinn! What say ye?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 12706
Brett, thank you for that quote. I wonder what else like that might be buried in the mass of holy texts, unemphasized? Janine, I like very much your suggestion to wait a hundred years, and see what happens. Interestingly, the Baha'is are well-positioned to still be around, no matter what happens wit...
- Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:57 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Cosmological Conceptions
- Replies: 15
- Views: 23721
[Brett says:] Just because someone worships a stone...does not mean that I must submit my brain to believe that something lower than myself (the stone) is actually higher and possesses magic. Of course there is no compulsion to believe anything. But I think the presumption that indigenous religions ...
- Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:56 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Baha'u'llah versus Daniel Quinn! What say ye?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 12706
You are wrong to assume that the Baha'i Faith stands in opposition to all Daniel Quinn's ideas. Not "all" but probably "most." Certainly "much." For instance, we certainly should learn from indigenous peoples: Baha'u'llah states that the whole world will be illumined by the influence of the Native ...
- Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:46 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Baha'u'llah versus Daniel Quinn! What say ye?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 12706
Baha'u'llah versus Daniel Quinn! What say ye?
Daniel Quinn is the author of Ishmael, The Story of B, Beyond Civilization, and other books with an ecological theme. He gives his religion as "animism" (after Tyler). So what do you think of the following points? Am I being fair? ---------------------------- Quinn: There is no one right way to live...
- Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:44 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Cosmological Conceptions
- Replies: 15
- Views: 23721
To me, the strangest thing about theism is the presumption that "my" culture or subculture's religion / God makes sense in a way that the cults and idols of Zeus or Mumbo Jumbo, God of the Congo, do not. At least with science, there is always the recognition that we might be wrong, even on the most ...
- Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:31 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Cosmological Conceptions
- Replies: 15
- Views: 23721
You could make the same arguments on behalf of any belief system. Who's to say that astrology and science might not turn out to be harmonious? As a layman, I wouldn't want to abandon my family fortune-teller just because of something I read on the internet... If self-creation sounds absurd to you, s...
- Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:06 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: A non-bahai view of Baha'ism
- Replies: 19
- Views: 32110
- Tue Sep 14, 2004 6:28 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: A non-bahai view of Baha'ism
- Replies: 19
- Views: 32110
Ah, Brett, that's all right. I don't remember exactly what it was, but I'll do my best. To begin with, I recall being concerned to clarify the difference between "Shi'i" ("Partisan"--of Ali) Islam, which is one of the two major divisions of that religion; the "Ithna Ashariya" ("Twelver") branch, its...
- Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:38 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: A non-bahai view of Baha'ism
- Replies: 19
- Views: 32110
I personally think that William Miller's book is a good one. I often wonder why Baha'is dislike him, but like EG Browne, when in fact their views and approaches are broadly similar. We certainly don't agree with Browne's reliance on the Azalis. He later apologized to 'Abdu'l-Baha for this, as I und...
- Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:57 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: The next prophet
- Replies: 25
- Views: 41986
Just one point: While "most" recognized prophets do seem to have Semitic roots, Baha'is see Muhammad as the seal of this Semitic line of prophets. The Bab and Baha'u'llah were not primarily of Semitic extraction (though as a Siyyid the Bab was a descendent of Muhammad). This suggests that the next p...
- Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:28 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: When was Qorrat al'Ayn born?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 13782
When was Qorrat al'Ayn born?
Some sources say 1814, some say 1817. What say ye?
And while I'm asking, does anybody have biographical information for her three kids?
And while I'm asking, does anybody have biographical information for her three kids?
- Tue Jun 15, 2004 1:26 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Babism and the color question
- Replies: 1
- Views: 5918
Babism and the color question
So, Babis didn't like the color black. Avoided it even in the form of black ink. So, what about the Black Flag of the Qa'im? They liked that. Did anybody ever try to reconcile this, that we know of?