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onepence~2

Onepence; Sorry for my mistake. I do not have very much experience on this site and the very idea that someone would try to hurt the Baha'i Faith, is painful to me. I was trying to read between the lines and am quite capable of making an error in trying to discern the motives of other writers. take...

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Onepence; ... I hope I have read you wrong, because otherwise something in your words smells bad. -Peter Yes ... you are reading me wrong ... so far ... you are the only one that deeply questions by style of writing ... and for this i am grateful to you ... for it is very interesting to see another...

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"The name Zion appears 154 times in the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible)."

"This could be a literal place such as in Ethiopia for Rastafari for example. For others, it has taken on a more spiritual meaning—a safe spiritual homeland ... "

onepence~2

Because (to the best of my knowledge), Zion is the old word and was the word used when those particular Bahai writings were written. They were written in the 1850s or whenever. Zion was the word used back then. Zion refers to a geographical place. Now if the name has changed, you have no other choi...

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Onepence; Yet another subtle suggestion, this time making use of the emotional punch-words 'Zion' and 'Zionism' to hint of a link with the spiritual institutions of the Faith. Do you do this sort of thing for a living? -Peter *smile* geesh ... if only we could make a livin off our writings ... lol ...

onepence~2

"Within current Baha'i Administration, is it acceptable for an LSA to appoint a Ruler ?" Onepence; "current" Administration? Are you hinting at a revision? And why would anyone want to suggest that an LSA had power over politics? That is not its function. You have a gift for sub...

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We hear the phrase ... " Cry out to Zion " ... also Zion is mentioned elsewhere Explain Zion ... now ... i could be way way way way way way way off base .... but recently i have been thinking that The Baha'i World Administration Center is Zion ... is that right ... ??? ... pretty profound ...

onepence~2

Question : Within current Baha'i Administration, is it acceptable for an LSA to appoint a Ruler ? for instance, a LSA wants to keep official time for some events ... say like at public comments at Feast or perhaps even at a track and field met or some sports event. could the LSA appoint said officia...

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yes ...

Prophecy being fulfilled ...

it would have way be interesting to look at ... and discuss ...

our World as being Prophecy fulfilled

interesting times

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November 24, 2008 - http://edition.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/conditions/11/24/aids.tagging.indonesia.ap/index.html?eref=edition AKARTA, Indonesia (AP) -- Lawmakers in Indonesia's remote province of Papua have thrown their support behind a controversial bill requiring some HIV/AIDS patients to be implanted...

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lol *smile* yes ... being tested every day is a challenge ... a glorious challenge ... *smile* ... even *rolly eye* ... but ... lol ... *smile* my problems often extended into ... well , really perceptional problems ... I am a stay at home dad to a 3 yr old son the wife works 3p-11p I think ... gees...

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Shalom http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shalom Shalom (שָׁלוֹם) is a Hebrew word meaning peace, completeness, and welfare ... The Word "shalom" can be used for all parts of speech; as a noun, adjective, verb, and as an adverb. ... end ... dh note ... yes ... Shalom ... might be a good title fo...

onepence~2

odd ... Baha'i Faith also not mentioned here ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace

this also should be rectified ... at least add

The Promise of World Peace ...

hmmm ...

sooner or later we will get around to it ...

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onepence~2

Peace churches ... advocating Christian pacifism ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_churches

The Historic Peace Churches ... held as central the Christian calling to follow Jesus’ injunctions to love enemies ...

http://web.archive.org/web/200703021957 ... g/who.html

onepence~2

Religious Society of Friends ... Quakers ... founded in England in the 17th century ... began in England in 1648 ... ... 360 yrs old ... *smile* side note ... "In the 1670 "Hay-market case", William Penn was accused of the crime of 'preaching Quakerism to an unlawful assembly', and wh...

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from wikipidea ... don't think we agree with this statement ... yet ... it has been noted ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace "In her capitalism peace theory, philosopher Ayn Rand [3] holds that the major wars of history were started by the more controlled economies of the time against the f...

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just curious ... what is the longest reign of peace within any government/law structure ... ??? Would Eskimos count ... ?? It would seem as if some small island nation ... maybe ... has never been to war ... ??? Switzerland ... ??? ... officially ... ??? ... neutral ... ??? what is the longest reign...

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Just wondering...what book is everyone reading right now? Ive just started The Priceless Pearl and LOVE Ruhiyyih Khanom's style of writing. I havent even finished the first chapter and im already glued :D :smile: yes ... The Priceless Pearl ... great description ... little facts bring this book to ...

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Thank you for your candor, .... your honesty makes our honesty even more honest ... *smile* It would seem to be an almost impossible task to describe 20 years of acquired knowledge, however to sum up our experience we would hold to tradition of what One is reported as saying before enlightenment ch...

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BritishBahai wrote:

... keep on topic in a study session. People always chit-chat afterwards and believe me it can go on for hours sometimes! but its interesting listening to people's debates etc.

yes ... keep on topic in a study session.

onepence~2

MasterKey wrote: ...

Baha’is often become quite emotional when considering ....

*humble smile* ... Wow ...

thanks MasterKey ... very well written ... much to think about ...

onepence~2

unveiling of Venus de Milo with neumes

The Birth of Jesus

The printing of the Bible

the use of penicillin

The Signing of The Universal House of Justice Constitution

onepence~2

scratch Columbus voyage into the uncharted waters of the Atlantic add unveiling of Venus de Milo with Neumes note : there is more to Venus de Milo than meets the common eye that is to say ... what really was Venus de Milo holding ... ??? *smile* note : Neumes ... fancy word for musical notation ... ...

onepence~2

Kate123 wrote:
... Once we have moved to a perfect closeness to God, we will no longer need our physical selves because we will be completely spiritual beings.

Does this fit in with Bahai beliefs? ....

hmm ...

Once we study Abdu'l Baha more closely the answers will become more clear ...

onepence~2

... My question is to those who grew up in families of other faiths: did your family feel that you had "turned your back" on their traditions, or dismiss your search for truth as being without a moral compass? and if so how did you resolve this while still embracing them as family? Thank ...

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... I do not see how to bring these two views together, although maybe I am missing the point. In any event, thanks again! Hi Sam, It is great to see your questions being answered ... *smile* and ... wow ... seems as if Loren did a fine job of going over some of those answers with you ... ... perha...

onepence~2

Hi Sam welcome to our little forum ... We have enjoyed reading your post and hope that you find the friendship here filled with both expected and unexpected expressions of love, devotion and faithfulness. As time permits we hope to address all the questions and issues you have brought up here *smile...

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Sen McGlinn wrote: ...

Been there ever since, in a way.
Sen

*smile*

yes ... i had a chance to serve Green Acre ...

the Library there is awesome

*smile*

onepence~2

I am from the United States. I first heard of the Baha'i Faith when i was a small boy looking through an encyclopedia. When i asked about it , my parents had never heard of it, and when i asked my priest {methodist} He said there was a small group of Baha'is in Gulfport , MS about a town 30 miles aw...

onepence~2

Abu Talib wrote:Then how would you interpret this verse?

[51:56] And I have not created the jinn and the men except that they should serve Me.

"He beholdeth justice in injustice, and in justice, grace."

onepence~2

... ... "As to the meaning of the quotation, 'My fears are for Him Who will be sent down unto you after Me', this refers to the Manifestation Who is to come after a thousand or more years, Who like all previous Messengers of God will be subjected to persecutions, but will eventually triumph ov...

onepence~2

... The National Spiritual Assemblies do have jurisdiction over their own regions (subject to the Universal House of Justice), but this would seem to be a pretty hefty decision to make on their own. .. Brett yes ... a pretty hefty decision ... we contend that the only action that can be proven to b...

onepence~2

the short answer is no. The National and Local Assemblies will eventually evolve into Houses of Justice when the Universal House of Justice says so. Its a very momentous step when that happens and I don't see any conceivable reason why the jurisdiction to do so would be anywhere outside the authori...

onepence~2

Dear openence~2, It looks that this issue is very important to you (Most active topic: House authority) would you please write a letter with your question to the Universal House of Justice and share with us their answer? at one point of this discussion we had seriously thought about submitting our ...

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and ... what is granted ... " ... the National Spiritual Assemblies, ..." and ... AMENDMENT This Constitution may be amended by decision of the Universal House of Justice when the full membership is present. hmmm ... so perhaps naming is function of both The Universal House of Justice and ...

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... This is simply a name... Brett True .. to a certain extent ... The question is who has the Power to name ? does an individual have the power to name to a certain extent individuals do have the power to name one can name a rose by any other name and it would still smell as sweet but most individ...

onepence~2

" The legislative body must reinforce the executive, ... " thus we have LSA'a not Houses of Justice since our Faith is a World Faith, not subject only to a certain region, sect a "National House of Justice" seems very out of place to us in fact ... other Nations may laugh/scorn s...

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... human society will never become fully mature. best wishes, Brett Wow ... hard to believe ... we contend that individuals within human society may never become fully mature, yet human society itself is mature otherwise we would have never signed The Universal House of Justice Constitution in oth...

onepence~2

"There is one more law related to time and marriage" would be a more precise phrase ...

so ... thank you for adding to our knowledge

onepence~2

... The views of God in Islam are almost identical to the Baha'i views but that God ceased to alter His religion for mankind, though he does cease to give us guidance. We are not aware that God has ever altered His religion the "Eternal Truth" can never be altered nor can guidance ever ce...

onepence~2

What does being persian have to do with this law? it is only in the current application of this Law that being Persian has any significance. However ... on a personal note ... we would like to think that the next Manifestations will be "brought up in the Persian tradition, speak Persian, and a...

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slava_sz wrote: ...
There is one more law related to time: all ceremonies, religious and civil as well as the physical contact should be within 24 hours. ...

*smile* .... this makes sense ... yet ... we would like source documentation

thanks

onepence~2

Hello Dean and all, ... The role of the Universal House of Justice, in the future, in removing the "temporary" appellation, would merely be applying the laws of Baha'u'llah according to the needs of the time, as it is charged to do--not arrogating to itself rights it did not possess (whic...

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scratch cotton gin

add the use of penicillin

*smile*

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Kyrgyzstan's restrictive new Religion Law is due to be voted on for the second and final time tomorrow (6 November), Forum 18 News Service has learnt. If the draft Law – whose exact text is unavailable for public discussion - is passed, it will go to President Kurmanbek Bakiev for signature. One hum...

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video presentation

Lettre d'Abdu'l-Baha au Professeur Auguste Forel le 21 septembre 1921

http://www.bahai-videos.com/videos/science.html

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We have updated the site http://greateventsinhistory.freeforums.org/ and updated our top 5 http://greateventsinhistory.freeforums.org/onepence-s-top-5-t5.html The Birth of Jesus The printing of the Bible Columbus voyage into the uncharted waters of the Atlantic Invention of the cotton gin The Signin...

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The Centrality of the Cross http://www.reformationtheology.com/2006/04/a_meditation_for_good_friday.php This unified purpose for history suggests a unified theme around which all of history is designed. What is the superlative way in which God might be displayed for who he is? Find the answer to tha...

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we have recently setup a free forum to discuss the great events in history http://greateventsinhistory.freeforums.org/ no registration required so all are welcomed to participate we may or may not continue upon this endevour we may or may not seek to contact various scholars to further our studies *...

onepence~2

We do think it is possible that an independent and Sovereign Power, such as a President or King or Apostle, might one day call a current LSA or NSA a House of Justice, and as a matter of courtesy The Universal House of Justice might be able to respond in like matter , yet , in no way should such res...

onepence~2

Hi brettz9, Thank you for your input and hopeful continuation of dialogue within this topic. you assert a belief that "The Universal House of Justice can, and no doubt will decide at what time in the future such a designation might change." we wish to know how you think this is possible. w...

onepence~2

yes ... BritishBahai cited Text is directly one point ... Shoghi Effendi has indicated that this is a "temporary appellation" ... ... we assert our belief that there is no legal way to legislate an end to this "temporary appellation" because of the permanent vacancy of the Guardi...

onepence~2

"There are varieties of ways in which history can be organized, including chronologically, culturally, territorially, and thematically. These divisions are not mutually exclusive, and significant overlaps are often present, as in "The International Women's Movement in an Age of Transition,...

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"The Guardian425 is only infallible in the conduct of his teaching office, i.e., in the interpretation of the scripture and revealed doctrine, and in questions relating to the protection of the Faith.426" //// dh note ... yes ... revealed doctrine ... that is why LSAs shall remain entitled...

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"The intermediate body, the “subordinate” or “national” House of Justice (Baytu’l ‘adl-i khus. u - s. i - or Baytu’l ‘adl-i milli - )381 was ordained by ‘Abdu’l-Baha - .382 In order to express the embryonic character of the local and national “Houses,” they are at present called “Spiritual Asse...

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"The international body, the Universal House of Justice is not named in the scripture of Baha’u’llah and can only be deduced by reference to the functions ascribed to it.379 The name “Universal House of Justice” derives from ‘Abdu’l-Baha - .380" 379. See Kita-b-i Aqdas 42; Qur’a - n 49, 50...

onepence~2

"Baha'u’llah has expressly forbidden the confession of sins before human beings.Therefore, there is also no forum internum sacramentale: the sphere of conscience is an unlegislated area"

onepence~2

"The local and national communities are not a formless assemblage of autonomous
associations, but divisional sections of a world community."

onepence~2

"For Baha’is, salvation for humanity arises out of the Covenant, the
core of which is the Law."

http://www.udoschaefer.com/pdffiles/int ... ai-law.pdf

onepence~2

Holy Places ... Ádharbáyján, Iran There are a number of Bahá'í holy places associated with the life of the Báb in this province. The ruins of the fortresses of Chihríq and Mákú where the Báb was imprisoned; the citadel in Tabriz where the Báb was kept and the public square where he was executed; the...

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"In 1907 a Bahá'í fund (sandúq-i khayriyyih) was established in Tehran to finance the full-time Bahá'í teachers (muballighs) and for the assistance of Bahá'í education and the support of orphans, the aged and handicapped (Rafati 458). From the early 1920s, Shoghi Effendi encouraged the developm...

onepence~2

"In 1897 `Abdu'l-Bahá instructed the Hands of the Cause to begin the consultations that resulted eventually in the setting up in Tehran in 1899 of the Central Spiritual Assembly, consisting of the four Hands of the Cause and nine who were elected by special electors appointed by the Hands. From...

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"Another development was the evolution of a number of persons who taught the Bahá'í Faith on a full-time basis, either resident in a locality or traveling around the community. These individuals, called muballighs, reached their greatest importance at the end of the nineteenth century. Sadru's-...

onepence~2

it would be interesting to know more about this "When copies of the Kitáb-i-Aqdas (q.v.) reached Iran, some of the Bahá'ís of Tehran decided, in about 1294/1877, to set up a House of Justice in that city. As there are no instructions in the book regarding the establishment of this institution, ...

onepence~2

we would also like to see a branch of history entitled "living history" or something like it ... *smile* based upon historical events/people that are specifically mentioned by The Three Central Figures of our Faith The Bab Baha'u'llah Abdu'l Baha basically living history will delve into ou...

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Tisha says the top five events in history are

freeing the slaves

establishing Bethune-Cookman college

life of martin luther king {america}

life of jfk {america}

and ???

onepence~2

I believe there still need to be more LSAs/NSAs established before there's a name change in those institutions. I might have read that in Schaefer's Making the Crooked Straight . yes ... that sorta makes since ... without NSA of Persia ... the thought of any name change is rather insignificant ... ...

onepence~2

I was actually thinking of this a while ago. I guess the only thing is that we have to wait for instructions from the Universal House of Justice, like everything else! yes ... something along those lines ... would be interesting to know if what the Universal House of Justice would do if an LSA , ow...

onepence~2

we would add to our list

the life of Socrates

we also might wish to define history as
all things prior to The Birth of Baha'u'llah

after all for the believers
The Birth of Baha'u'llah represents Life
everlasting

and history represents that which hath pasted

*smile*

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