and the great events of history

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and the great events of history

Postby onepence~2 » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:34 pm

A while back ago ... we had the pleasure of downloading a massive
amount of the spoken Word ....

all sorts of recordings

we recently listened to

Communication: The Key to Expansion
Roger Coe
published in Baha'i News
February 1986

written text is located here ...

http://74.125.45.104/custom?q=cache:hHp ... cd=9&gl=us

while listening we heard ...

"In view of the fact that at the present time...fully developed and comprehensively learned individuals are hard to come by, and the government and people are in dire need of order and direction, it is essential to establish a body of scholars the various groups of whose membership would each be expert in one of the aforementioned branches of knowledge (in preceding passages, these are cited as "knowledge of the sacred Scriptures and the entire field of divine and natural science, of religious jurisprudence and the arts of government and the varied learning of the time and the great events of history..."). This body should with the greatest energy and vigor deliberate as to all present and future requirements, and bring about equilibrium and order."{22}

and it got us thinking about "and the great events of history"

hmmm ...

what on earth would a list / curriculum of the great events of history be like

????

then ... today ... we were listening to someone's description of our True Brother
and his teaching style ... speaker was hesitant to use the term style ...
{for how is one to describe the Divine} ... *smile* ... yet ... the speaker went on to say
something along the lines of progressive revelation as a style of Teaching / writing ...
*smile*
{citing ... how the North American believers were educated ... The Dispensation of Baha'u'llah ... how only 8 NSA where at the time of ... etc ... et all}

yes ...
progressive revelation as a style of Teaching / writing

*smile* ... yes ... we like that thought ...

and we wish to become educated into the great events of history

so ... we pondered ... what would a list of the great events of history be like ...

we imagined the secular world would list
this that and the other thing ... *smile*
and much of what a secularist might say we would agree with

yet ... we wish to have a divine list ...

as typing we have thought of
the birth of any Manifestation of God ...

think of Jesus for a second ...
wow ... talk about one of the greatest events of History ...
the birth of Jesus surely most be among the top of our list

*smile*

so ....

does anyone know of any curriculum on the great events of history ???

does anyone have anything they would add to our list ... ???

the discovery of America ... ???
{would that count}
all things Americana ???
{would that count}

moveable type / printing press
{we hear China should get predominate credit}

aethiesm
{hmmm ... pretty ugly ... should that count ... ???}

The Covenant of Baha'u'llah
an absolute must
*smile*

hmmm ...

your thoughts / prayers / dialogue appreciated

oneness,
dh

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Re: and the great events of history

Postby onepence~2 » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:55 am

we would add to our list

the life of Socrates

we also might wish to define history as
all things prior to The Birth of Baha'u'llah

after all for the believers
The Birth of Baha'u'llah represents Life
everlasting

and history represents that which hath pasted

*smile*

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Re: and the great events of history

Postby onepence~2 » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:27 am

Tisha says the top five events in history are

freeing the slaves

establishing Bethune-Cookman college

life of martin luther king {america}

life of jfk {america}

and ???

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Re: and the great events of history

Postby onepence~2 » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:01 am

we would also like to see a branch of history entitled

"living history"

or something like it ... *smile*

based upon historical events/people that are specifically mentioned by
The Three Central Figures of our Faith

The Bab
Baha'u'llah
Abdu'l Baha

basically living history will delve into our Writings and mine out
those people and events that are specifically mentioned within our Writings

we can ascertain that certain aspects of history can be living by
noticing how Baha'u'llah stretches the Baha'i {Badi} calendar into a brief period of time
prior to the Declaration of The Bab ...

hmmm ...

living history may include
at some point in the future
or perhaps instead be called religious history

we think we like the term living history more than the term religious history
"living history" is more a paradoxical term
while religious history a finite term

so ... yes ... we think living history is an appropriate term
and useful as classification in studies of the great events of history

*smile*

some areas of interest in living history
will be

The Letters of the Living
The Disciples of Baha'u'llah
The Heralds of The Covenant
The Hands of the Cause of God

The Manifestations of God
The Men of God {devoted followers of The Manifestations}
the building of the Kingdom of God {churches,mosques,synagogues,etc.}

any mention of Historical events or people within the Writings
of The Three Central Figures of our Faith

hmmm ... the building of the Kingdom of God
may also have to include the people and events associated with
our Guardian and The Universal House of Justice ...
{yes ... fascinating studies within this field}

imagine knowing the people and events associated with
in any given local in the building of the Kingdom of God
{churches,mosques,synagogues,etc.}

ok ... smile ... so ...

maybe we should build a web page ...

oneness.
dh

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Re: and the great events of history

Postby onepence~2 » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:37 am

Holy Places ... Ádharbáyján, Iran

There are a number of Bahá'í holy places associated with the life of the Báb in this province. The ruins of the fortresses of Chihríq and Mákú where the Báb was imprisoned; the citadel in Tabriz where the Báb was kept and the public square where he was executed; the building in Mílán to which the remains of the Báb were taken after his execution; the apartment and public baths in Urúmiyyih used by the Báb. Most of these being public buildings have never been in Bahá'í hands.

Moojan Momen

http://www.northill.demon.co.uk/relstud/adharbjn.htm

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Re: and the great events of history

Postby onepence~2 » Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:21 pm

"There are varieties of ways in which history can be organized, including chronologically, culturally, territorially, and thematically. These divisions are not mutually exclusive, and significant overlaps are often present, as in "The International Women's Movement in an Age of Transition, 1800–1945." It is possible for historians to concern themselves with both the very specific and the very general, although the modern trend has been toward specialization. The area called Big History resists this specialization, and searches for universal patterns or trends. History has often been studied with some practical or theoretical aim, but also may be studied out of simple intellectual curiosity.[9]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History

"History is a field of research producing a continuous narrative and a systematic analysis of past events of importance to the human race.[1] Those who study history as a profession are called historians."

"The modern discipline of history is dedicated to the institutional production of this discourse."

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Re: and the great events of history

Postby onepence~2 » Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:31 am

we have recently setup a free forum to discuss
the great events in history

http://greateventsinhistory.freeforums.org/

no registration required
so all are welcomed to participate

we may or may not continue upon this endevour

we may or may not seek to contact various scholars
to further our studies

*smile*

oneness
dh

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Re: and the great events of history

Postby onepence~2 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:26 am

The Centrality of the Cross

http://www.reformationtheology.com/2006 ... friday.php

This unified purpose for history suggests a unified theme around which all of history is designed. What is the superlative way in which God might be displayed for who he is? Find the answer to that question, and you will discover the goal toward which all of history is striving together. Fortunately, the scriptures do not leave us ignorant of this unifying theme; it is nothing other than God’s mightiest act of all: the redemption of his people. All of history is redemptive history; because redemption is the greatest display of God’s essential nature that could have been formulated in the mind of God. Hence, matters related to the accomplishment of redemption are unexceptionally the great events of history and at the same time the great revelations of God.

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Re: and the great events of history

Postby onepence~2 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 2:45 am

We have updated the site

http://greateventsinhistory.freeforums.org/

and updated our top 5

http://greateventsinhistory.freeforums. ... -5-t5.html

The Birth of Jesus

The printing of the Bible

Columbus voyage into the uncharted waters of the Atlantic

Invention of the cotton gin

The Signing of The Universal House of Justice Constitution

*smile*

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Re: and the great events of history

Postby onepence~2 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:53 pm

scratch cotton gin

add the use of penicillin

*smile*

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Re: and the great events of history

Postby onepence~2 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:50 am

scratch Columbus voyage into the uncharted waters of the Atlantic

add

unveiling of Venus de Milo with Neumes

note :
there is more to Venus de Milo than meets the common eye
that is to say ... what really was Venus de Milo holding ... ???
*smile*

note : Neumes ... fancy word for musical notation ... smile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_de_milo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_notation

as a side side note ... lol

basic themes through out existence do repeat themselves ...
... it would be interesting to hear more dialogue about these great themes ...
... like examples of how history does repeat itself ...
... so that we may learn from past mistakes and what we can look forward to into the future ...

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Re: and the great events of history

Postby onepence~2 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:54 am

unveiling of Venus de Milo with neumes

The Birth of Jesus

The printing of the Bible

the use of penicillin

The Signing of The Universal House of Justice Constitution


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