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Arabic: The Mother of all Languages ( Links )

Postby Ahsan_al_Hadees » Thu May 29, 2008 6:17 am

Hi,

Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad ( PBUH ), the Promised Messiah and the Mahdi, proved in 1895 about Arabic being the Mother of all Languages.

Link: http://www.alislam.org/library/history/ ... ya/14.html

He wrote “Minan-ur-Rehman” in 1895 in both Urdu and Arabic

Link: http://www.alislam.org/urdu/rk/rk-9-26.pdf

This book is translated into English and is uploaded now

Link: http://www.alislam.org/topics/arabic/Ar ... guages.pdf

I mentioned in one other thread about those five who had been to National Assembly Pakistan in 1974 to defend the faith. The video of the debate, inspite of our repeated requests, is never shown on TV. That time the live debate in National Assembly was not shown either. Now the orthodox Mulla has published a book which is a dialogue between the Attorney General and our 3rd Caliph. In that dialogue our 3rd Caliph is shown speechless on those questions which our kids can answer without any difficulty.

Maulana Abu-al-Ata ( RA ) is second from right. He translated Kitab-e-Aqdas in Urdu.

Sheikh Muhammad Ahmad Mazhar Advocate ( RA ) proved for many languages that they are traced to Arabic. He is second from left.

From Left to Right:

( 1 ) Hadhrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad ( RA ): He was our 4th Ahmadi Muslim Caliph from 1981 to 2003.

( 2 ) Sheikh Muhammad Ahmad Mazhar ( RA ): He was head of the Ahmadiyya Jama'at of the city Faisalabad. Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad ( AS ) proved that Arabic is the Mother of all languages. Sheikh Muhammad Ahmad Mazhar ( RA ) proved for 51 languages traced to Arabic including English.

( 3 ) Hadhrat Mirza Nasir Ahmad ( RA ): He was our 3rd Ahmadi Muslim Caliph from 1965 to 1981.

( 4 ) Hadhrat Maulana Abu-Al-Ata of Jalandhar ( RA ) : He is the one who translated the Kitab-e-Aqdas in Urdu Language.

( 5 ) Maulana Dost Muhammad Shahid: He is our historian and the only one out of these five who is alive.

Recently the few books of Hadhrat Sheikh Muhammad Ahmad Mazhar Advocate ( RA ) have been uploaded on our official website http://www.alislam.org

Those who are interested in this subject can download these books for research purposes.

Link: http://www.alislam.org/topics/arabic/


( 1 ) The Sources for All Languages

Link: http://www.alislam.org/topics/arabic/Th ... guages.pdf


( 2 ) Dutch and Swedish Traced to Arabic

Link: http://www.alislam.org/topics/arabic/Du ... Arabic.pdf


( 3 ) Egyptian Traced to Arabic

Link: http://www.alislam.org/topics/arabic/Eg ... Arabic.pdf


( 4 ) English Traced to Arabic

Link: http://www.alislam.org/topics/arabic/En ... Arabic.pdf


( 5 ) Hausa Traced to Arabic

Link: http://www.alislam.org/topics/arabic/Ha ... Arabic.pdf


( 6 ) Italian Traced to Arabic

Link: http://www.alislam.org/topics/arabic/It ... Arabic.pdf


( 7 ) Japanese Traced to Arabic

Link: http://www.alislam.org/topics/arabic/Ja ... Arabic.pdf


( 8 ) Sanskrit Traced to Arabic

Link: http://www.alislam.org/topics/arabic/Sa ... Arabic.pdf


( 9 ) Sumerian, Akkadian, Bantu Traced to Arabic

Link: http://www.alislam.org/topics/arabic/Su ... o%20Arabic


( 10 ) Yoruba Traced to Arabic

Link: http://www.alislam.org/topics/arabic/Yo ... Arabic.pdf

Enjoy O:)

Regards,
Ahsan
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Re: Arabic: The Mother of all Languages ( Links )

Postby Sen McGlinn » Thu May 29, 2008 12:50 pm

Poppycock! Sanskrit is older than Arabic.

If you put children together a lot, they start to invent their own language. Making languages is part of what makes us human. So naturally, languages have been invented independently in many different parts of the world. Arabic is part of the "modern" branch of the semitic languages, which includes Hebrew. Sanskrit is the oldest extant example of the indo-european language family. Although it is much older than Arabic, it is not the origin of Arabic. And Arabic of course is not the origin of the older languages.

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Re: Arabic: The Mother of all Languages ( Links )

Postby Ahsan_al_Hadees » Thu May 29, 2008 12:58 pm

Hi Sen,

With due respect I disagree with you. I dont think so you downloaded any of the attachments to read anything. I request you to first read and then come with some refutation ( if you have time ).

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Ahsan

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Re: Arabic: The Mother of all Languages ( Links )

Postby Sen McGlinn » Thu May 29, 2008 1:17 pm

I did actually read the beginning of the English text. It is nonsense. Sorry, but I see no value in it at all. We know an awful lot about how humans learn and make languages and about the history of the various language families. This author simply does not know the things that anyone who has studies history and linguistics has to know

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Re: Arabic: The Mother of all Languages ( Links )

Postby Ahsan_al_Hadees » Thu May 29, 2008 1:22 pm

Sen,

This is not a correct approach to just read a few lines and come to the conclusion. I have given links of languages including English and Sanskrit.

Using offensive terms like "Poppycock", "nonsense" dont serve the purpose :-k

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Ahsan

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Re: Arabic: The Mother of all Languages ( Links )

Postby danieldemol » Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:29 am

Hi Ahsan,
Given that this post was not made in the "discussion of topics unrelated to the Baha'i faith" forum, I question why it matters, as far as I know, belief in Arabic as origin of languages or otherwise is not a fundamental of Baha'i belief.
Whilst it is valid to conduct scientific debate, the most that could be changed is the consensus of the scientific community, if Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's speculation on the matter were to one day prove to be correct, I would be surprised if it should influence even one Baha'i to become Ahmadi.
Kind regards,
Daniel.

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Re: Arabic: The Mother of all Languages ( Links )

Postby BritishBahai » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:20 am

danieldemol wrote:Hi Ahsan,
Given that this post was not made in the "discussion of topics unrelated to the Baha'i faith" forum, I question why it matters, as far as I know, belief in Arabic as origin of languages or otherwise is not a fundamental of Baha'i belief.
Whilst it is valid to conduct scientific debate, the most that could be changed is the consensus of the scientific community, if Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's speculation on the matter were to one day prove to be correct, I would be surprised if it should influence even one Baha'i to become Ahmadi.
Kind regards,
Daniel.

(This thread has now been moved to the correct forum).
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Re: Arabic: The Mother of all Languages ( Links )

Postby BruceDLimber » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:22 am

It can clearly be pointed out that the original post is nonsense!

Arabic is NOT the "mother language" but a later branch off the ORIGINAL language which was apparently Indo-European!

Further, the assertion of a Divine Messenger appearing in 1895 is in direct conflict with the Baha'i scriptures, which state plainly that there will be NO such Messenger for at least a millenium!

So the only summary I can supply is, "Wrong number!"


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Re: Arabic: The Mother of all Languages ( Links )

Postby brettz9 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:59 am

BruceDLimber wrote:Arabic is NOT the "mother language" but a later branch off the ORIGINAL language which was apparently Indo-European!


Though Farsi is an Indo-European language, Arabic is an Afroasiatic language: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afroasiatic_languages .

BruceDLimber wrote:Further, the assertion of a Divine Messenger appearing in 1895 is in direct conflict with the Baha'i scriptures, which state plainly that there will be NO such Messenger for at least a millenium!

So the only summary I can supply is, "Wrong number!"


The person posting this was not a Baha'i.


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