). Did they all accept Baha'u'llah's message, or are there still bábís out there? Do they have a website, or are they more Báhá'í oriented? Any info, thnx .
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hihellowhatsup
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Are there any modern day followers of Al Báb? (I use "Al Báb" to refer to the Báb to distinguish it from the name "Bob" ). Did they all accept Baha'u'llah's message, or are there still bábís out there? Do they have a website, or are they more Báhá'í oriented? Any info, thnx .
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). Did they all accept Baha'u'llah's message, or are there still bábís out there? Do they have a website, or are they more Báhá'í oriented? Any info, thnx .
Ciao
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I don't know either, but a good place to start looking would be (a) Famagusta, Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (for Azalis), or (b) Samarkand and Bukhara, Uzbekstan (where I heard some existed). Iran would be a bad idea, since they probably practice dissimulation, and anyway you wouldn't want to get them into trouble, would you?
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I'll try this again. (I posted this before but it aparently never appeared.)
Modern-day Babis prefer to be called Bayanis. One of them--an Iranian-Australian convert named Wahid Azal (formerly Nima Hazimi)--has started an English-language website and two yahoogroups discussion lists.
The website is bayanic.com. The main discussion group is Bayan19 (Baha'is are asked not to subscribe). There is another one (which welcomes Baha'is) whose name I forget, and which hasn't had any activity for months.
Modern-day Babis prefer to be called Bayanis. One of them--an Iranian-Australian convert named Wahid Azal (formerly Nima Hazimi)--has started an English-language website and two yahoogroups discussion lists.
The website is bayanic.com. The main discussion group is Bayan19 (Baha'is are asked not to subscribe). There is another one (which welcomes Baha'is) whose name I forget, and which hasn't had any activity for months.
bayanic website
They have a semi-active website: simply type bayanic in google.
If they would be serious people they would spread the Bab
scripture for free, possibly in typed format, and make it availuable in many languages. But it is not so.
For westerners, except made for specialists like mister Cole and als,
the scanned manuscripts are scary,
compared to the typed versions.
There is also an interesting website on Shayk Ahmad, but the english version
is in its infancy. I like the persian langage but i am not
enough advanced in persian, to understand all the things (kully shay) from
those sites.
Khoda Hafez
MJ
If they would be serious people they would spread the Bab
scripture for free, possibly in typed format, and make it availuable in many languages. But it is not so.
For westerners, except made for specialists like mister Cole and als,
the scanned manuscripts are scary,
compared to the typed versions.
There is also an interesting website on Shayk Ahmad, but the english version
is in its infancy. I like the persian langage but i am not
enough advanced in persian, to understand all the things (kully shay) from
those sites.
Khoda Hafez
MJ
maybe a human tendency
Well, we may call this activity they do by
the term "bashing" or "mocking" or simply
"ridiculisation".
For a person who can read persian, if he
or they have read the Bayan and other
writings of the Bab, how could they not
catch the Bab's incisting invitation to move
forward ? Especially if able to read the original text
and understand their deep meanings, this sort of
"bashing" activity, while keeping the sacred texts
semi-secret, is bizaroid.
MJ.
the term "bashing" or "mocking" or simply
"ridiculisation".
For a person who can read persian, if he
or they have read the Bayan and other
writings of the Bab, how could they not
catch the Bab's incisting invitation to move
forward ? Especially if able to read the original text
and understand their deep meanings, this sort of
"bashing" activity, while keeping the sacred texts
semi-secret, is bizaroid.
MJ.
they read the texts corrupted by Mirza Yahya.
The books of the Bab have not as yet been printed in the original. Except for the Bayan, the Seven Proofs and Commentary on the Surih of Joseph, we cannot be sure of the authenticity of most of His other works as the text has been corrupted by the unfaithful.
(Shoghi Effendi, Dawn of a New Day, Page 95)
I dont know Keyvan, I dont know any
babi in my country, nor do i know what
they do, if there are any.
One thing I know for sure, is when i recite
a short paragraph written by the Bab on some
sunday mornings, sometimes old bahais say to me:
"ah, what you read is from the Bab isn't it ?
I recognized His style."
It is a fact, that the way the Bab present his arguments
in writing, has an impact on people, and they recognize this
style when they hear it.
In comparison, may we say that Baha'u'llah adopted a
style wich is more diplomatic, less direct, in view not to
hurt anyone, but under this "chocolate" coating, we find the same
positive discipline, so useful to all who get access to the bahai writings.
MJ.
babi in my country, nor do i know what
they do, if there are any.
One thing I know for sure, is when i recite
a short paragraph written by the Bab on some
sunday mornings, sometimes old bahais say to me:
"ah, what you read is from the Bab isn't it ?
I recognized His style."
It is a fact, that the way the Bab present his arguments
in writing, has an impact on people, and they recognize this
style when they hear it.
In comparison, may we say that Baha'u'llah adopted a
style wich is more diplomatic, less direct, in view not to
hurt anyone, but under this "chocolate" coating, we find the same
positive discipline, so useful to all who get access to the bahai writings.
MJ.
interesting that one would mention style
I have often admired those who teach
the various approaches to acquiring virtues
through the spoken communications
For instance I love the Ridvan messages
published by The Universal House of Justice
seldom do I add comment to Her commentary
because frankly it's just not my place to do so
but lately I find the Ridvan messages
to be in complete conformity with Baha'u'llah's
wisdom to "primarily speak with words as mild as milk"
this is not to say
that The Universal House of Justice or Baha'u'llah
sugar coats anything
however I find all things have their own unique styles
For instance within the Guardian's Writings
i often wished i would have had a teacher
at younger age than I am now
to teach me the "structure" of the verbs,adverbs, puncuatations
and spelling *smile*, etc... that the Guardian used
my what a difference that would have made in my life
but eventually I am sure there will be those who will arise
and easily recite various sentance structure/s
I mention spelling for some obvious reasons
but also because the Guardian spelled certain words
with old english style
like splendour instead of splendor
things like that create small but subtle nuances
in communications
with "words as mild as milk"
"the Faith will have to contend with enemies more powerful and more insidious than those who have afflicted it in the past."
oneness
dh
I have often admired those who teach
the various approaches to acquiring virtues
through the spoken communications
For instance I love the Ridvan messages
published by The Universal House of Justice
seldom do I add comment to Her commentary
because frankly it's just not my place to do so
but lately I find the Ridvan messages
to be in complete conformity with Baha'u'llah's
wisdom to "primarily speak with words as mild as milk"
this is not to say
that The Universal House of Justice or Baha'u'llah
sugar coats anything
however I find all things have their own unique styles
For instance within the Guardian's Writings
i often wished i would have had a teacher
at younger age than I am now
to teach me the "structure" of the verbs,adverbs, puncuatations
and spelling *smile*, etc... that the Guardian used
my what a difference that would have made in my life
but eventually I am sure there will be those who will arise
and easily recite various sentance structure/s
I mention spelling for some obvious reasons
but also because the Guardian spelled certain words
with old english style
like splendour instead of splendor
things like that create small but subtle nuances
in communications
with "words as mild as milk"
"the Faith will have to contend with enemies more powerful and more insidious than those who have afflicted it in the past."
oneness
dh
majnun wrote:I dont know Keyvan, I dont know any
babi in my country, nor do i know what
they do, if there are any.
One thing I know for sure, is when i recite
a short paragraph written by the Bab on some
sunday mornings, sometimes old bahais say to me:
"ah, what you read is from the Bab isn't it ?
I recognized His style."
It is a fact, that the way the Bab present his arguments
in writing, has an impact on people, and they recognize this
style when they hear it.
In comparison, may we say that Baha'u'llah adopted a
style wich is more diplomatic, less direct, in view not to
hurt anyone, but under this "chocolate" coating, we find the same
positive discipline, so useful to all who get access to the bahai writings.
MJ.
im differneciating between authenticated works of The Bab which are used by Baha'i's, and other works which we dont use or publish in any language, but azali's do. many of htose works are corrupted by the dajjal