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- Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:22 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Anti-Baha'i site
- Replies: 22
- Views: 47531
Guys, We can not make an assumption like that. As Zazaban has pointed out, he may have incorrect references therefore we will have to wait and see. It is haram to judge someone if we do not have the facts. We are not here to judge him. Only Allah can, so let us be civil. If he confirms the reference...
- Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:55 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Anti-Baha'i site
- Replies: 22
- Views: 47531
Ok cool. With Imrans permission, could you please either post his replies or simply email them to me. Im interested to know what his response will be. Whether its a fat chance he will remove it or not if proven wrong, atleast it would show the seekers that he has fabricated it and his promise to rem...
- Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:37 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Anti-Baha'i site
- Replies: 22
- Views: 47531
Excellent. Now since Imran has promised that he will remove any information on the website which is incorrect, you can present this to him. If he is true in his intention and you can provide him the proof and he cannot provide the source or the correct source, Imran should adhere to his promise. If ...
- Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:49 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Anti-Baha'i site
- Replies: 22
- Views: 47531
- Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:22 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Anti-Baha'i site
- Replies: 22
- Views: 47531
To simply resolve this we need to establish whether Imran has made up the information on his site or whether he has the sources to back him up. Imran is apparently fluent in farsi and arabic therefore someone who is also fluent in these languages should request the sources. If Imran fails to deliver...
- Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:50 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Anti-Baha'i site
- Replies: 22
- Views: 47531
Hey, Maybe you can point out the mistakes he has made because as a Bahai seeker i can tell you that he is actually doing more damage than good. If you can point these mistakes out then other seekers like myself can be proven Imran is spreading only lies, but at this time, no Bahai seems to challenge...
- Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:58 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Marriage
- Replies: 4
- Views: 18151
- Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:51 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Marriage
- Replies: 4
- Views: 18151
Marriage
Hi All, Just wondering whether there has been any change in the rules regarding marriage from Islam to Bahai. For example, does it state anywhere that its forbidden to marry your cousin now? Please feel free to use references where bahaullah has made marriage with certain relatives lawful/unlawful. ...
- Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:36 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: The Qa'im
- Replies: 30
- Views: 70473
But if a Muslim believes in the teachings of his prophet Muhammad he would come across refences to the coming of two people (namely the Bab and Bahaullah). So, he is not shunning the teachings of Islam and is believing in the prophecies foretold by Muhammad... Yes only if interpreted through the Ba...
- Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:22 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: The Qa'im
- Replies: 30
- Views: 70473
]First, I am not sure that bringing a Muslim who has become a Baha'i into this Forum will be productive. I sense that he or she will be subjected to accusations of apostasy, and then the discussion will degenerate. For some reason I really doubt that would happen! This isnt a Muslim forum but rathe...
- Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:53 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: The Qa'im
- Replies: 30
- Views: 70473
- Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:23 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: The Qa'im
- Replies: 30
- Views: 70473
Thanks Brent. As im sure you could imagine, if the Bab was the Mahdi, the Bayan would be a very important book to a Muslim. The Mahdi is the one the Muslims are waiting for who will bring peace and justice to this world. Every Muslim has been taught the importance of the Mahdi and the impact He will...
- Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:19 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: The Qa'im
- Replies: 30
- Views: 70473
- Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:48 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: The Qa'im
- Replies: 30
- Views: 70473
it has already been shown that the Bab considered Himself the Mahdi, as did Baha'u'llah. so there is no confusion as to what the Bab's station was, at least among Baha'is (and non-Baha'is) familiar with islam and the Bab's claims... Ive been following this thread and it has proved to be quite educa...
- Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:38 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: The Qa'im
- Replies: 30
- Views: 70473
- Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:13 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Muslim to Bahai?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 42432
- Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:38 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Muslim to Bahai?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 42432
kjf512, i am not baha'i, nor am i a shiah muslim lol, but clearly the hadith predicts when the qa'im will come.. mathematically it predicts the exact year the Bab came.. Which Hadith are they referring to on the site? Im assuming you are not aware of the Hadith and only relying on sources from a dif...
- Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:26 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: The Qa'im
- Replies: 30
- Views: 70473
- Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:03 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: The Bab's claim to be Qa'im
- Replies: 48
- Views: 128618
- Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:53 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Manifestion Explained
- Replies: 21
- Views: 53693
Actually, I think most Baha'is don't know about that . In fact, if you search for the topic on google, you will find a dearth of hits on the subject. Really??? Wouldnt that be an important aspect for the Bahai's to know? What is the ruling of the UHJ? Is it only Christopher Buck that makes this ass...
- Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:03 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Manifestion Explained
- Replies: 21
- Views: 53693
- Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:00 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Muslim to Bahai?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 42432
- Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:05 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Muslim to Bahai?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 42432
Thought id revisit this in the chance an ex-Muslim is viewing the forum. The questions i would like answered (if possible) are: 1. As a Muslim, you would of believed in the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad(a.s) regarding the Mahdi. What made you believe the Bab was the Mahdi? 2. Since you would hav...
- Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:29 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Manifestion Explained
- Replies: 21
- Views: 53693
- Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:26 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Manifestion Explained
- Replies: 21
- Views: 53693
So term Manifestation is basically another word for a Prophet? Ok i just saw this.... Baha'u'llah's station is much higher than that of the previous Prophets though, since He is the Sender of the Messengers. Baha'u'llah sent Muhammad, among Others. So he is higher than a Prophet because he sent Muha...
- Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:45 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Manifestion Explained
- Replies: 21
- Views: 53693
Manifestion Explained
Hi All, Im hoping someone can clearly explain the meaning of "Manifestation Of God". Although this has been ( unsatisfactorily ) explained in previous posts, i would appreciate if i could receive responses from educated Bahai's such as Brett, Brent, Argos, etc (no offence intended to anyon...
- Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:19 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: The Bab's claim to be Qa'im
- Replies: 48
- Views: 128618
for all you know, the Shiites may claim that their 12th Imam was the one whom the Bab was referring to - the Bab has acknowledged Mohammed ibnil Hasan as the 12th imam at multiple places (sometimes twice in the same book). Mohammed Ibnil Hasan was in occultation even then. How do you know that Bab ...
- Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:08 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
- Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:19 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: A broad response to many of your interesting threads!
- Replies: 16
- Views: 38208
Thankyou for your input Brent. The Avalim's authenticity has already been discussed in previous threads so unfortunately as a Muslim, i cannot refer to this Hadith. Much appreciated though. Regarding the Hadith from Al-Shia.com. I am very grateful for your understanding of the importance of Hadith f...
- Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:32 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: A broad response to many of your interesting threads!
- Replies: 16
- Views: 38208
Imran and Zazaban, I am glad you two understand where i am coming from. You both place very important points and i thankyou for that. Zazaban, It's not like he's going around attacking the Baha'i Faith, most of what he says has been in response to you. Thankyou for pointing out the obvious. I apprec...
- Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:08 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
So we can assume he's talking about it but cannot be sure since it was not mentioned by him? :-? Let me tell you one thing. Acknowledging that Bahaullah has said this is suprisingly going to actually benefit me, so im hoping it is clearly shown somewhere!! No offence, but although i believe the clai...
- Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:56 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: A broad response to many of your interesting threads!
- Replies: 16
- Views: 38208
:roll: Here we go again........ 1. Bahais also have sects and orginated from a covenant breaker sect known as the Shaykhi. 2. The Infallible Prophet Muhammad(a.s) and the Ahlulbayt(a.s) were the interpreters of the Quran. The Authentic Hadith is now well known and no further interpretations required...
- Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:25 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
Thanks for the quote BW, however this is the quote where Bahaullah mentions about the seal of the prophets. I was hoping to get a quote where Bahaullah talks about verse 33:44 and his interpretation as a coming Manifestation. I remember you mentioned that the interpretation stated in the Iqan is mor...
- Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:51 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: A broad response to many of your interesting threads!
- Replies: 16
- Views: 38208
- Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:50 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
- Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:55 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: The Bab's claim to be Qa'im
- Replies: 48
- Views: 128618
- Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:48 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
One of the proofs of the Baha'i Revelation is the fact that some of the leading scholars and clergymen of Islam became Baha'is. You read the Iqan, so you should rember this, but Baha'u'llah actually lists some of the prominent Shi'a scholars who became Baha'is. Off hand right now, I can think of Va...
- Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:20 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Abdul Baha
- Replies: 16
- Views: 35268
Abbas, I'm sorry if you felt I was arguing with you, but I don't think I was. No problems. I forgive you. :smile: There are undoubtably Persians in her community who could point her to the Writings in Farsi, if she can't read English. She also likely has the books in her house (if she doesn't then ...
- Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:17 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
- Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:38 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Abdul Baha
- Replies: 16
- Views: 35268
- Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:31 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Abdul Baha
- Replies: 16
- Views: 35268
- Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:15 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
- Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:32 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Abdul Baha
- Replies: 16
- Views: 35268
- Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:09 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
- Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:33 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: The Bab's claim to be Qa'im
- Replies: 48
- Views: 128618
- Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:21 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Abdul Baha
- Replies: 16
- Views: 35268
Ok. These are the some of the reasons why my gf believes Abdul Baha was a prophet. 1. Apparently Bahaullah allowed the marriage of two wives, however abdul baha abrogated that law and said marry only one. 2. Apparently Bahaullah has said that we should be eating meat, but Abdul Baha said that meat i...
- Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:01 pm
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
- Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:46 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: general questions about the prophets
- Replies: 14
- Views: 33295
- Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:33 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
- Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:16 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
- Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:26 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
- Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:09 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
- Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:07 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Abdul Baha
- Replies: 16
- Views: 35268
Hmmm...maybe you need to become a Baha'i and teach your girlfriend about the faith? Well, you can still do it now. He definitely wasn't a Prophet, though we also shouldn't underestimate His station. hahaha, yeh i know huh! But its cool. I dont need to become a Bahai to teach her though. Ive asked h...
- Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:04 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
- Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:52 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
- Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:50 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Abdul Baha
- Replies: 16
- Views: 35268
An infallible interpreter. Ok cool. No He didn't. And also, He never did that. If you think you found somewhere where the Master changes any of His Father's Laws, please show me and I'll try to clarify it for you. I havent seen anything but my gf was explaining that Abdul was also a prophet which i...
- Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:47 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
That's hardly the attitude to take to arrive at the truth. Exactly what i think! :smile: People just take things how they want which is why so many people can arrive at different conclusions. Thats not the attidude to take. Absolutely agree. Yes it does. You can't see God. It has to then mean God's...
- Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:33 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Abdul Baha
- Replies: 16
- Views: 35268
Abdul Baha
Hi All,
Quick question.
Would Abdul Baha be classed as a prophet or just an interpreter? No references please. Just a simple answer would do.
I just want to know whether Abdul Baha had the right to change any laws his father placed.
Regards
Abbas
Quick question.
Would Abdul Baha be classed as a prophet or just an interpreter? No references please. Just a simple answer would do.
I just want to know whether Abdul Baha had the right to change any laws his father placed.
Regards
Abbas
- Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:26 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
- Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:21 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
- Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:19 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
- Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:14 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
BW, I know what you said. Im just trying to clarify whether it is mentioned in the Quran or it was just a Bahai concept. Dont be quick to jump to conclusions. :smile: This isn't in the Qur'an either, and I again, I didn't say it was. You might want to re-read what I posted more carefully. You will b...
- Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:59 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
Thanks BW. Could you please provide a reference for the readers where the Prophet Muhammad is described as the Manifestation of God in the Quran? Im hoping if i read it from the Quran, i would get a better understanding of the whole Manifestation concept. Also, the Prophet Muhammad(a.s) was the fina...
- Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:16 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: "Seal of the Prophets"
- Replies: 60
- Views: 119811
- Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:35 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Muslims—Will the Qa'im OVERTURN Islam?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 66251
- Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:09 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Muslims—Will the Qa'im OVERTURN Islam?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 66251
Hmm... 623 - Battle of Waddan 623 - Battle of Safwan 623 - Battle of Dul-Ashir 624 - Muhammad and converts begin raids on caravans to fund the movement. 624 - Zakat becomes mandatory 624 - Battle of Badr 624 - Battle of Bani Salim 624 - Battle of Eid-ul-Fitr and Zakat-ul-Fitr 624 - Battle of Bani Q...
- Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:03 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Muslims—Will the Qa'im OVERTURN Islam?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 66251
That's your opinion. (See paragraph number five.) I said one SHIA Hadith. (See below) Again, according to you. According to anyone who requires proof from a SHIA source. The sermons of Imam Ali are easy to find, especially on the net, as are the other hadith I have shown you. If you don't agree, gr...
- Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:58 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Muslims—Will the Qa'im OVERTURN Islam?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 66251
I have been watching this disscussion, and some of the exchanges have been bordering on attacks. Not really sure what to call it really. Please try to be respectful of people's belief systems, however they justify it. Accusing somebody of picking and chosing does not strike me as respectful. Bt tha...
- Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:54 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Muslims—Will the Qa'im OVERTURN Islam?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 66251
You are trying to find flaws with every single hadith I show you because they challenge your beliefs, and you apparently cannot handle that. No BW. Im not trying to find flaws, you are providing me with flawed information. All i have simply asked is for you to provide ONE Shia Hadith from a Muslim ...
- Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:14 am
- Forum: Discussion
- Topic: Muslims—Will the Qa'im OVERTURN Islam?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 66251
have already provided the hadith. I maintain that they are good enough, and there is no reason for me to find more hadith. I suggest you reflect on the ones already posted, and read Baha'u'llah's Books with an open-mind—that is, clear your mind of anything that will impede you from recognizing God'...