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by BruceDLimber
Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:12 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Question about canvassing
Replies: 12
Views: 27263

Hi! The original "modest proposal" document was published by a certain specific individual or small group of individuals who were non-conformist to say the least! I won't go so far as to call them enemies of the Faith, but what they've said definitely puts them outside the norm. My impress...
by BruceDLimber
Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:05 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: call Bahaullah a prophet/messenger/founder/prophet-founder??
Replies: 3
Views: 12888

Re: call Bahaullah a prophet/messenger/founder/prophet-found

Greetings! Are there any guidance letters etc from the Universal house of justice that detail this? I've never heard of one, especially one stating correct Arabic terms; but this may well be because there's no particular reason they'd send something like this to the West, anyway! As to English, He h...
by BruceDLimber
Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:51 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Question about canvassing
Replies: 12
Views: 27263

portmanteau wrote: (The Universal House of Justice, 1989 Jun 21, 'Dialogue', 'A Modest Proposal' etc.).


Hi!

Do you know if this article is available online, and if so, where?

I looked on bahai-library, but it doesn't seem to be present there.

Thanks! :-)

Bruce
by BruceDLimber
Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:22 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Baha'i Music
Replies: 11
Views: 17503

Re: Baha'i Music

I was interested in what Baha'i groups are popular here. One of my personal favorite groups is Smith and Dragoman. http://www.smithanddragoman.com http://www.myspace.com/smithanddragoman Very moving, powerfully orchestrated music with well-crafted lyrics focusing on the the lives of the Bab and Bah...
by BruceDLimber
Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:15 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: One Muslim has said that Bahaulllah's arabic was rubbish
Replies: 11
Views: 32784

Re: One Muslim has said that Bahaulllah's arabic was rubbish

One person has said that Bahaullah is fake because His arabic was rubbish (im obviously paraphrasing) and that its incomparable to the Quran. Small world! :-) As I recall, the same accusation was originally made about Muhammad when He wrote the Qur'an--that He hadn't followed what somebody though w...
by BruceDLimber
Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:09 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: reasons why the bahai faith is not a cult
Replies: 10
Views: 34244

Re: (good article) reasons why the bahai faith is not a cult

* Hassan, Steven, Combating Cult Mind Control, Park Street Press, One Park Street, Rochester, Vermont 05767, 1988, ISBN 0-89281-311-3. "The Four Components of Mind Control", pages 59-67. This is the book on Amazon, if anyone is interested: http://www.amazon.com/Combatting-Cult-Mind-Contro...
by BruceDLimber
Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:56 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Kashf-al-Ghita (the Bahai Response to 'Nuqtatul-Kaf')
Replies: 21
Views: 44811

good point. I would love to be able to read many of the Bab's writings or for that matter any of the early Babi's. But, i know how hard it is to translate. I would think that it would be a better use of resources to translate Baha'u'allah's work first. Precisely why the translators at the World Cen...
by BruceDLimber
Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:14 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Kashf-al-Ghita (the Bahai Response to 'Nuqtatul-Kaf')
Replies: 21
Views: 44811

Re: Publishing of the Bab's writings

The "big deal" being made over the Bab's Writings not having been fully translated to English also completely ignores the glaring fact that these workss are--and have ALWAYS been--available in the original languages, and that there are many Baha'is (and others) who have read them in those ...
by BruceDLimber
Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:24 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Equality of men and women
Replies: 11
Views: 28166

Re: Equality of men and women

Sorry; I don't have it at hand.

Perhaps someone else here does.

Regards,

Bruce
by BruceDLimber
Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:34 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Kashf-al-Ghita (the Bahai Response to 'Nuqtatul-Kaf')
Replies: 21
Views: 44811

Re: More about Nuqtat-al Kaf

The Writings of the Bab, which are Babi scripture, are relatively less important to Baha'is because they're mostly superceded by Baha'i law and Writings. They may well be translated fully someday, but clearly aren't a priority right now. Whatever Quddus wrote isn't (and can't be) Baha'i scripture, a...
by BruceDLimber
Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:07 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Bimanism?
Replies: 13
Views: 30592

Re: Bimanism?

Greetings! As to the Baha'i opinion of the material posted here, a short quotation from the Baha'i scriptures sums up our position quite satisfactorily!: 37 “Whoso layeth claim to a Revelation direct from God, ere the expiration of a full thousand years, such a man is assuredly a lying impostor. We ...
by BruceDLimber
Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:00 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: proofs of second coming in the bible
Replies: 3
Views: 12216

Hi!

You can find many further details on this at:

http://www.bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled

Best, :-)

Bruce
by BruceDLimber
Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:41 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Kashf-al-Ghita (the Bahai Response to 'Nuqtatul-Kaf')
Replies: 21
Views: 44811

Re: More about Nuqtat-al Kaf

Nuqtat-ul Kaf ...( was written by Haji Mirza Jani of Kashan one of the seven persons who were martyred in Tehran in horrific circumstances. His book covers the first eight years of the Babi movement and is considered to be the earliest and most trustworthy account of the events during this period. ...
by BruceDLimber
Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:16 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Kashf-al-Ghita (the Bahai Response to 'Nuqtatul-Kaf')
Replies: 21
Views: 44811

Allah-u-Abha! Bruce - Please post some good links (thanks) I can do better than that! Here's a brief excerpt from a single article, where the discussion is about an enemy of the Faith (Miller) who's using the Nuqtatu'l Kaf as a "reliable source": [quote] ... [T]he principal source used fo...
by BruceDLimber
Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:56 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Kashf-al-Ghita (the Bahai Response to 'Nuqtatul-Kaf')
Replies: 21
Views: 44811

Re: An Important Persian Book

Hi!

There are indeed other Baha'i sources that confirm that the Nuqtatu'l Kaf was a forgery and in no way reflected the true Babi Faith!

And World Order Magazine has carried articles stating this.

Regards,

Bruce
by BruceDLimber
Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:15 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Symbolic = Confusion????
Replies: 44
Views: 82033

Re: Symbolic = Confusion????

As to why so much is symbolic, especially in older religions there are many metaphors and things that, if taken literally, will quickly yield nonsense! More recent religions have less of this, and in the Baha'i scriptures, such symbolism is largely confined to mystical works such as The Seven Valley...
by BruceDLimber
Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:09 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: reasons why the bahai faith is not a cult
Replies: 10
Views: 34244

Re: (good article) reasons why the bahai faith is not a cult

Hi! I can provide a quick-and-easy reply to this topic! Here it is. Best, :-) Bruce - - - - - Based on Combating Cult Mind Control" by Steven Hassan, here are the criteria for determining "cults": 1. How new members are found. Dangerous Cults: With many cults, you don't get to know wh...
by BruceDLimber
Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:28 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Universal House of Justice
Replies: 7
Views: 15611

Greetings, GGM; good to have you with us! :-) You needn't necessarily "declare in front of an assembly" to be a Baha'i! The key thing is whether or not you accept Baha'u'llah as being Who He says He is. In many countries (but not all) you formally enroll by signing a declaration card, but ...
by BruceDLimber
Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:42 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Universal House of Justice
Replies: 7
Views: 15611

Re: Universal House of Justice

Hi! As was mentioned, the House of Justice clearly exists and is functioning! Becaue it's no longer possible to appoint a Guardian due to the stipulateions 'Abdu'l-Baha placed upon it, the Guardianship now exists as the voluminous body of work and interpretatins which Shoghi Effendi created during h...
by BruceDLimber
Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:14 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: The Bab and Shoghi Effendi on Abortion
Replies: 4
Views: 15553

Re: The Bab and Shoghi Effendi on Abortion

Sigh.

Yet again, the standard assertion-without-evidence sort of put-down from the usual source. :-(

Bruce
by BruceDLimber
Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:24 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Equality of men and women
Replies: 11
Views: 28166

Re: Equality of men and women

The founders of Bahai Faith has explicitly stated that women and men are equal. But women are excluded from service on the UHJ, in spite of the religion’s clear teaching on the equality of the sexes. Why? Please present a reasonable answer. I'll give you a reasonable, direct, and complete answer: N...
by BruceDLimber
Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:16 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: The Carrot, the Stick, the Maiden, and the Fire...
Replies: 5
Views: 19248

Hi! You've already made a good start! I would suggest two additions: - Prefix the first quote (about the two pillars of justice) with the Hidden Word stating justice is the best-beloved thing in God's sight, and - Add the passage about the worst torment being non knowing where to turn for spiritual ...
by BruceDLimber
Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:10 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Another day from God - another day to better do his will
Replies: 2
Views: 10513

Re: Thank you, Bruce

Fortunately, we Baha'is have far clearer guidance in the 200 volumes of our own scriptures! They tend to reduce ambiguity tremendously and leave very little room for quibbling. You can see these, BTW, at: www.bahai-library.org (click Writings), http://www.reference.bahai.org (this site is multilingu...
by BruceDLimber
Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:37 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Another day from God - another day to better do his will
Replies: 2
Views: 10513

Re: Thank you, Bruce

Yes: It's amazing how far off the mark some nominal Christians can be (true, of course, of every one of us in whatever religion!). I think a good example is how many people and groups insist on "original sin" in clear contradiction of the verses in Ezekiel 18:14-20 rejecting inheritance of...
by BruceDLimber
Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:06 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Another day from God - another day to better do his will
Replies: 2
Views: 10513

Greetings!

Personally, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a Baha'i who doesn't love and revere Jesus--not to mention Christianity and the Bible!

(I just hope you're equally respectful of God's other Divine Messengers, too.)

Peace,

Bruce
by BruceDLimber
Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:26 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Baha'i purity, etc
Replies: 4
Views: 15285

Re: Baha'i purity, etc

Greetings! Another thing to remember is that both spirituality and becoming fully Baha'i are ongoing processes, not overnight miracles! So we all strive to improve and, eventually, to "arrive" at what we truly should be and attain. (BTW, you'll have to think about getting yourself another ...
by BruceDLimber
Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:14 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: "Prophecy-fulfilled" website - (very good)
Replies: 7
Views: 18506

Greetings!

The BCI website does indeed state that BCI is under the formal sponsorhip of a Baha'i organization, so yes, it is indeed an official site!

Peace,

Bruce
by BruceDLimber
Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:30 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Homosexuality
Replies: 22
Views: 40874

For example (to name just two errors): - Baha'is share the same view of Heaven and hell as many Christians, namely that they are spiritual conditions rather than places. - And sin is definitely a concept in the Baha'i Faith. Perhaps asking Baha'is what they believe rather than going to some random ...
by BruceDLimber
Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:17 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Wat is diffrence between bahai and muslims?????
Replies: 19
Views: 45598

Which is sacred book or sacred writing of bahai's i mean name of that holy book or sacred writing? Hi! In fact, the Baha'i Faith has about 200 volumes of scripture, each with its own title! (About half of these were written by Baha'u'llah, our Founder.) You can see these at: www.bahai-library.org (...
by BruceDLimber
Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:09 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: When was this written?
Replies: 4
Views: 15065

I agree this doesn't appear to be in the standard format used by the US NSA.

But in any case you can ask directly simply by emailing:

secretariat@usbnc.org

and asking whether this is their document and if so, its date.

Peace,

Bruce
by BruceDLimber
Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:05 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Homosexuality
Replies: 22
Views: 40874

I suggest you learn more about the Baha'i faith before you consitor joining. one of the first, basic things I learns was that there isn't a believe in the standard heaven and hell, or any sort of "sin" (which is a concept really only in Christianity.) No, Baha'is do not believe it is a ch...
by BruceDLimber
Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:53 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Bahai view? "Why bad things happen to good people?"
Replies: 12
Views: 29193

Re: Bahai view? "Why bad things happen to good people?&

Hi again, BB! :-) The passage you mentioned about disastrous events may well exist, but I'm not aware of it offhand.... As to God-sent tests, the scriptures of multiple religions say: "Do men think when they say 'we believe,' they will be let alone and not put to proof?!" and "God ver...
by BruceDLimber
Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:33 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Bahai view? "Why bad things happen to good people?"
Replies: 12
Views: 29193

Greetings! I'd say the answer to this question falls into three parts: Some tests are indeed God-sent to evaluate us and to help us grow spiritually. As various scriptures say, "Do men think when they say 'we believe,' they will be let alone and not put to proof?!" and "God verily wil...
by BruceDLimber
Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:05 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Recent CHORAL FESTIVAL at the Wilmette, IL Baha'i temple
Replies: 0
Views: 20226

Recent CHORAL FESTIVAL at the Wilmette, IL Baha'i temple

Friends, for those who'd enjoy hearing it, here are two videos of our recent (200-voice) performance of "Salvation is Created" (from the Russian Orthodox tradition) at the North American Baha'i House of Worship in Wilmette, IL last month: http://www.youtube.com/usBahaiFaith http://www.yout...
by BruceDLimber
Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:02 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: looking for Tablets of the Divine Plan in Persian
Replies: 3
Views: 13594

Hi!

I can't promise that it'll be there, but you might try checking:

http://www.reference.bahai.org

which is multilingual and therefore may well have originals available!

Best, :-)

Bruce
by BruceDLimber
Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:30 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: do animals have souls?
Replies: 5
Views: 13773

Greetings! If animals do have souls, they would be "animal souls" and not human souls; in other words, humans are (according to the Baha'i scriptures) a distinct part of creation on a higher plane than animals. (I refer you to the discussion of the "Kingdoms of Creation" in Some ...
by BruceDLimber
Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:07 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Have been asked interesting Q's + want your thoughts
Replies: 3
Views: 10541

Hi, Sean! I can offer you a few odds and ends in re your questions (mostly odds!): First off, as to Lucifer, I don't think you're going to find any specific Baha'i teachings, but this would fall generally into the Baha'i teaching that God is One, Supreme, and has no equal or rival! Thus there is no ...
by BruceDLimber
Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:46 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A Series of Christian related questions, help please
Replies: 4
Views: 10235

OK, Sean, now that I have the appropriate file handy,

If you'd like to send me your email address in a private message, I'll be happy to send you the Baha'i article I have about how the trinity isn't a Baha'i concept and why it's considered a man-made doctrine.

Regards, :-)

Bruce
by BruceDLimber
Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:55 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Homosexuality
Replies: 22
Views: 40874

Hi!

I'll echo Curt.

Others' personal lives are not our business, so I wish all and sundry good health, peace, and much joy!

Regards,

Bruce
by BruceDLimber
Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:05 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Homosexuality
Replies: 22
Views: 40874

Hi! Briefly, the Baha'i teaching about homosexuality has two parts. The first is a subset of the general Baha'i law commanding chastity. This applies to everyone regardless of marital status. And as Baha'i marriage is a heterosexual institution, homosexual marriage isn't an option. Further, ANYONE n...
by BruceDLimber
Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:58 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: A Series of Christian related questions, help please
Replies: 4
Views: 10235

Hi! Below, to address at least one of your questions, is some information about what we Baha'is call the "dual stations" teaching that relates to Jesus and other Divine Messengers' being God or not: We Baha'is teach that all the major religions of the world are divine in origin, sent by Go...
by BruceDLimber
Tue May 01, 2007 9:37 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: The real cause of Islamic terrorism - the yogic perspective
Replies: 8
Views: 26750

You have to be careful there, because often "Deva" is inappropreatly translated as "God." The above should read "Devas and men" or "Angels and men."


Not speaking the language, I can't address that.

Regards,

Bruce
by BruceDLimber
Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:19 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: The real cause of Islamic terrorism - the yogic perspective
Replies: 8
Views: 26750

I would appreciate it if the moderators will change the topic of this thread to " The real cause of Islamic terrorism -- the yogic perspective." Uh, that title still has a problem: It isn't clear whether you mean: 1. The yogic perspective about Islamic terrorism, or 2. Islam's terrorism p...
by BruceDLimber
Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:16 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: The real cause of Islamic terrorism - the yogic perspective
Replies: 8
Views: 26750

Greetings! Buddha has not mentioned about any God or gods. Sorry: you're mistaken. "There is, O monks, an Unborn, Unoriginated, Uncreated, Unformed. Were there not, O monks, this Unborn, Unoriginated, Uncreated, Unformed, there would be no escape from the world of the born, originated, created,...
by BruceDLimber
Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:31 am
Forum: Discussion
Topic: The real cause of Islamic terrorism - the yogic perspective
Replies: 8
Views: 26750

Greetings! N>These prophets were not unique; they were men as you or I. We Baha'is disagree, Niranjan. As we see it, the Divine Messengers (those great teachers who found new religions, not to be confuxed with ordinary prophets) are in a class by Themselves. While they share our human attributes, Go...
by BruceDLimber
Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:09 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: The Bab's claim to be Qa'im
Replies: 48
Views: 126757

Brett, just a quick (and rather late) note!: It's my understanding that Muhammad may have been illiterate. So your challenge about whether or not He wrote the Qur'an really doesn't apply. If I'm not mistaken, His statements were written by various third parties and compiled later after His death. Re...
by BruceDLimber
Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:17 pm
Forum: Discussion
Topic: Anti-Baha'i site
Replies: 22
Views: 47377

Re: Fat chance

1844 A.D.(which converts into the muslim 1284 A.H? - cant remember!) . . . Sorry, BB, you're mistaken!: 1844 CE (aka 1844 AD) is equivalent to 1260 AH (dates present in multiple Biblical prophecies, BTW). Regards, Bruce __ - I edited your post by sorting out the coding, thats all. (british_bahai, a...
by BruceDLimber
Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:17 pm
Forum: About Baha'i Library
Topic: Update -- site redirection
Replies: 3
Views: 27963

In case you were not unaware, an unformatted version of this book is already online (albeit not specially formatted or linked) at http://bahai-library.com/?file=riggs_apocalypse_exegesis Understood. But what this copy adds in a full subject index that was not part of the original book. (You need to...
by BruceDLimber
Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:42 pm
Forum: About Baha'i Library
Topic: Update -- site redirection
Replies: 3
Views: 27963

Jonah, Allah-u-Abha! Please contact me as I've just finished indexing a book by Robert Riggs and would like to make it available here! It's Apocalypse, An Exegesis, his revision of Apocalypse Unsealed , his analysis and verse-by-verse interpretation of the Biblical Book of Revelation (aka Apocalypse...

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