History of Peace

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onepence~2
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History of Peace

Postby onepence~2 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:57 pm

just curious ...

what is the longest reign of peace within any government/law structure ... ???

Would Eskimos count ... ??

It would seem as if some small island nation ... maybe ... has never been to war ... ???

Switzerland ... ??? ... officially ... ??? ... neutral ... ???

what is the longest reign of peace within any government/law structure ... ???

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Re: History of Peace

Postby onepence~2 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:03 pm

from wikipidea ... don't think we agree with this statement ... yet ... it has been noted ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace

"In her capitalism peace theory, philosopher Ayn Rand [3] holds that the major wars of history were started by the more controlled economies of the time against the freer ones and that capitalism gave mankind the longest period of peace in history -- a period during which there were no wars, involving the entire civilized world -- from the end of the Napoleonic wars in 1815 to the outbreak of World War I in 1914."

... if true ... wow .. how sad ... yet how glorious our mission must be ...
...also ... no wonder many tell us that world peace as conceived of by members of the Baha'i Faith can not happen ...
... because ... it has never happened ... in the entiire history of humanity world peace to many members of society has been , at best , a state of utopian philosophy ...

hmmm ...

we are unsure of if capitalism gave mankind the longest period of peace in history ...
we would think some sort of law ... perhaps divine law ... has the longest period of peace in history

hmmm ...

yes ... peace is ... as noted by members of the Baha'i Faith ... an inward state ...
yet ... we are ... at this time ... looking for practical examples of the outward state of peace ...

what is the longest reign of peace within any government/law structure ... ???

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Re: History of Peace

Postby onepence~2 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:38 pm

Religious Society of Friends ... Quakers ...
founded in England in the 17th century
... began in England in 1648 ...
... 360 yrs old ...

*smile*

side note ...

"In the 1670 "Hay-market case", William Penn was accused of the crime of 'preaching Quakerism to an unlawful assembly', and while he freely admitted his guilt he challenged the righteousness of such a law. The jury, recognizing that William Penn clearly had been preaching in public, but refusing to find him guilty of speaking to an unlawful assembly, attempted to find Penn guilty of "speaking in Gracechurch-street". The judge, unsatisfied with this decision, withheld food, water, and toilet facilities from the jurors for three days. The jurors finally decided to return a not guilty verdict overall, and while the decision was accepted, the jurors were fined. One of the jurors appealed this fine, and Chief Justice Sir John Vaughn issued an historically-important ruling: that jurors could not be punished for their verdicts. This case is considered significant milestone in the history of jury nullification." ... "The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania was founded by William Penn, as a safe place for Friends to live and practice their faith."

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Re: History of Peace

Postby onepence~2 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:59 pm

Peace churches ... advocating Christian pacifism ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_churches

The Historic Peace Churches ... held as central the Christian calling to follow Jesus’ injunctions to love enemies ...

http://web.archive.org/web/200703021957 ... g/who.html

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Re: History of Peace

Postby onepence~2 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:11 pm

odd ... Baha'i Faith also not mentioned here ...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace

this also should be rectified ... at least add

The Promise of World Peace ...

hmmm ...

sooner or later we will get around to it ...

1
dh

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Re: History of Peace

Postby onepence~2 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:21 pm

Shalom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shalom

Shalom (שָׁלוֹם) is a Hebrew word meaning peace, completeness, and welfare ...

The Word "shalom" can be used for all parts of speech; as a noun, adjective, verb, and as an adverb.

... end ...

dh note ... yes ... Shalom ... might be a good title for a paper ...
tracing the History of Peace ... fascinating ...

Society progressively experiencing the ultimate forms of His Justice ...

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Re: History of Peace

Postby coatofmanycolours » Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:16 pm

hi Onepence; This subject has interested me for a long time. I believe that
there have been many periods of peaceful community life, throughout history
and pre-history, but that they were not dramatic enough to be recorded as
historical events.

I do not understand peace as an ultimate utopian state for the entire planet.
Firstly, peacefulness is relative. Every advancement in peacefulness is noteworthy,
even when running parallel to problems and challenges to peace.

Secondly, peace is regional in scope. Since, over the vast range of human life
on earth, regions were separated because of the difficulty of travel, it makes
good sense to make note of each region which enjoys a relative period of
peacefulness, including progress towards peace against challenges to its realization.

In the following post I will quote from a website which discusses this subject,
and I will provide a link.

-Peter

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Re: History of Peace

Postby coatofmanycolours » Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:24 pm

Peaceful societies are contemporary groups of people who effectively
foster interpersonal harmony and who rarely permit violence or warfare
to interfere with their lives. This website serves to introduce these
societies to students, peace activists, scholars and citizens who are
interested in the conditions that promote peacefulness. It includes
information on the beliefs of these peoples, the ways they maintain
their nonviolence, and the factors that challenge their lifestyles.

A list of peaceful societies is never completely finished or accurate.
However, social scientists have convincingly described at least 25
societies around the world in which there is very little internal violence
or external warfare. Generalizations are difficult to make accurately,
except that most of the time these peaceful societies successfully
promote harmony, gentleness, and kindness toward others as much
as they devalue conflict, aggressiveness, and violence.

While scholars have clearly identified a small number of societies in
which people rarely act aggressively, it must be emphasized that
no stamp of approval is intended for the societies included in this website.
None of them are utopias. They share many problems with the rest
of humanity. That said, however, most of the time they interact in a
highly pro-social manner and they successfully avoid both violence
within their own societies and warfare with other peoples.

Popular writers and casual observers have also described many other
societies as “peaceful,” but often in a more general or romantic sense.
This website focuses, instead, on societies where there is significant
scholarly literature to support the claims of peacefulness, and where
the evidence provided by those scholars appears to be quite convincing.

Part of the fascination of this scholarly literature is the way readers can
compare the extent of peacefulness and violence in these societies.
Their differing ways of developing social, psychological, ethical and
religious structures that foster peacefulness should inspire—and challenge
anyone interested in the processes of peace building. This literature
suggests several questions:

* Why are some societies highly opposed to both aggressive behavior
within the community and warfare with external enemies, while most
other peoples tolerate or even encourage such violence?

* How are these peaceful societies able to maintain their pro-social
values and their nonviolence even when challenged by aggressive outside forces?

* How do peaceful societies raise their children to support harmonious
social interactions, to devalue violence, and to transmit firm commitments
to nonviolence to following generations?

* What sorts of psychological strategies do they employ to reinforce
their values and beliefs in peacefulness?

* How do the religions, systems of belief, and worldviews of the peaceful
societies foster their nonviolence?.....

http://www.peacefulsocieties.org/

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Re: History of Peace

Postby onepence~2 » Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:29 am

hey ... wow ...

awesome study / link

thanks

interesting enough ... found what i sort of was looking for right away ...

from the Amish ... "never taking revenge" ...

on a personal note ... i think that is one of the toughest things for me ...

"never taking revenge" ... i mean ... i really do not think i am a vengeful person ...

but when i do ... it is like omg ... just terrible reckless behavior ...

someone once said ... explosive rage disorder ... *ugh* ...

something i must always be on guard against ...

anyway ... very cool site ... wish it would have traced peace through time lines ...

but ... societal lines is an interesting study .. perhaps more useful than my time line idea

thanks

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Re: History of Peace

Postby coatofmanycolours » Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:14 am

"...the Amish ... "never taking revenge" ... "

Also, to really make the idea work, the Amish pass it on
to all the young Amulets. Then when their Amulets grow into
full-size Amish, they continue the tradition.

-Peter

ps Any Amish who are offended by my humour,
what the heck are you doing with a computer?

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Re: History of Peace

Postby onepence~2 » Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:41 am

coatofmanycolours wrote:"...the Amish ... "never taking revenge" ... "

... the Amish pass it on to all the young ...



yes ... really a good point ...

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Re: History of Peace

Postby chloe26 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:36 am

What about "Ahimsa" or Non-violence and "Satyagraha" or resistance to tyranny through mass civil disobedience of Mahatma Gandhi? They are tool towards peace too. :)


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