Self-Defense and Baha'i Morality

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Posted by Stuart Gilman ( on December 18, 2002 at 05:44:17:

Please see my answer to Misagh below on the question of a perverse gay man's rejection. "Re: Somewhat disappointed", Dec. 18, 2002.

The inability of Baha'is to take a stand on evil is a mystery to me. On a personal level, Baha‚is talk to me about the right of self-defense as a Baha'i duty. But what is the meaning of self-defense? It surely must include abominations to the ears and eyes, not physical self-defense alone. If a woman wants to seduce me - who is not my wife - surely my rejection of her is a form of self-defense. If she tries to rape me, then my fighting back is surely a Baha'i act. If a man tries to seduce me or rape me, am I not in a Baha'i moral framework to do everything I can to reject him, including the use of controlled force?

And since my wife IS beautiful and a man tries to rape her, what are my rights as a Baha'i? I am not asking about my civil rights or secular rights - but about my Baha'i rights and duties.

And again, and again, why are you all so timid when answering these straightforward moral questions?

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